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End the IRS: Get the FairTax and Get Your Whole Paycheck
December 24, 2007 | By Jack Yoest
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Mike Huckabee, “is the change agent the nation most needs.” From The Dallas Morning News endorsement from delegate rich Texas.
FairTax An example of this change Huckabee advocates is ending, eliminating, closing down a government agency: the Internal Revenue Service. The beloved IRS.
Kyle Hamilton is blogging on the FairTax on mymanmitt, founded by my good friend Justin Hart. They are skeptical of real tax change. Our competitors supporting Romney do not believe that real change is possible, or maybe not necessary.
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Sorry, but you’ve been duped. The Fair Tax ain’t fair. In a short comment it’s not possible to go into all the rationale for this statement, but lets just hit two points.
(1) Unless the Sixteenth Amendment is repealed prior to the implementation of the Fair Tax [and not the wimpy Congress passed law that promises to repeal it], you can be assured that we will have both the National Sales Tax / Fair Tax AND the income tax. We’ve been fooled many times — income tax only for the rich, social security will never taxable, IRAs never had RMDs at first, and many other “camels” that have stuck their nose in — why would you trust the politicians now?
(2) Taxation in any form is THEFT. By what moral authority does the majority impose this “theft”? If a tax isn’t truly voluntary, then it is coerced. This is supposed to be the “land of the free”. What a joke!
No, sorry, we are on the “road to serfdom”. The sheep are being enslaved by degrees. Our revolutionary “fore fathers” would be ashamed at what we have let happen to the American Experiment.
Sorry, but only Ron Paul is pointing the way out of this mess. You can nuke the IRS by cutting spending back to Clinton era numbers.
Without a fundamental revolution, the Fair Tax does NOTHING for the largest tax we pay — the Inflation Tax.
The Fair Tax is at best a flawed distraction — lipstick on one ugly pig — to take our eye off the ball.
Sorry, but I respectfully disagree.
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Ahh, the Socialists are in full bloom. Trying to steal Ron Paul’s thunder — end the IRS — while maintaining the status quo.
The empty suits of both parties are just that “empty suits” who want to keep the current system going along.
If you don’t solve the problem of “honest money”, nothing else matters. If you don’t solve the problem of “Congressional spending”, nothing else matters. If you don’t solve the problem of “unfunded entitlements”, nothing else matters.
If Ron Paul doesn’t get the nod, then we are in the run away elevator to the bottom. Right next to the Roman Empire. And, all the broken dreams of freedom.
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Reinke Faces Life 
>Go Huckabee! Go FairTax! Both would be great for all Americans and the American economy!
Well, Dear “Bill”, we’ll just have to disagree agreeably.
:-)
Neither Huckabee or the Fair Tax would be “good for me”. And, since I am an “American”, I have to dispute your assertion.
Unless you want to tell me that I don’t know what is “good” for me. So how do you know? A voice from God or Fox News?
I’ll write a better post tonight with some of the more blatant flaws I see with the Fair Tax.
My essential question would be about the morality of taxation. Since if I don’t pay your tax —- and why should I since I never agreed to pay for services I nether need or want — like education — and are merely overpriced at best and counter productive at worst — like price supports and price caps, then the gang in power will send men with guns to extract it. Like the mafia, I could be hurt or killed. If they want to make an example of me, I could be imprisoned. My question is where do you get off stealing from me?
The bottom line is that taxes are theft and Un-American.
As far as Candidate Huckabee is concerned, I see him as another stuffed shirt in a long line of Democans or Republicrats who will just propagate the current mess. If we don’t elect Ron Paul, there is really no practical difference between any of the others.
So as I said, disagree agreeably.
See unlike you, I will allow you to tell me what is “best” for you and you should permit me the same freedom.
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Dear Duane:
To prevent “drive by commenting”, I acknowledge all comments. (If the email bounces, then I have a different problem.)
>In response to the authors #1, we could have that today. There is nothing to stop congress from implementing both taxes.
It would be practically impossible for the congress critters to pass a national sales tax (in addition to the existing taxes). Per se, if they could get away with it and keep their seats and scalps, I fell confident that they would have. Adding another tax at this time and place might just be the thing “that awakes the sleeping giant”. In NuJerzee, Florio’s penny tax on toilet paper brought out the mobs.
> Even with the 16th amendment repealed we could still have both.
I have read many folks who feel that the 16th was ESSENTIAL to passing the income tax. Fooled once; not again.
>The income tax would be more difficult since it would have to be apportioned among the states, but it would be legal.
Without the 16th, it would be impossible to implement.
>To the Ron Paul supporters I would ask what we cut and what we keep?
I don’t have the YouTube urls but Ron Paul has been very specific: we go back to the first Clinton Budget and that ends the Income Tax. We exit Korea, Germany, Afghanistan, and Iraq ASAP and everywhere else as soon as practicable. Department of Education, Health and Human Services, and BATF. Audit the “federal reserve bank” (i.e., the banking cartel) with an eye to moving to some form of “honest money”. (Even Ron Paul treads lightly on how we are going to do that without infuriating all the creditors.) Then we start unwinding Social Security by selling off “Federal Assets”. I think that’s an excellent start and a very calm reasoned approach.
>I agree that some portion of what congress spends is waste but I have yet to hear a comprehensive plan on what goes and what stays.
It is generally conceded that half is wasteful. I would assert that the percentage is much much higher.
> How can anyone support something so vague.
In comparison to what the other empty suits offer you, I think he’;s very specific.
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Guess we’ll agree to disagree agreeably?
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In response to the authors #1, we could have that today. There is nothing to stop congress from implementing both taxes. Even with the 16th amendment repealed we could still have both. The income tax would be more difficult since it would have to be apportioned among the states, but it would be legal.
To the Ron Paul supporters I would ask what we cut and what we keep? I agree that some portion of what congress spends is waste but I have yet to hear a comprehensive plan on what goes and what stays. How can anyone support something so vague.
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Go Huckabee! Go FairTax! Both would be great for all Americans and the American economy!
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Leo Linbeck, cofounder of Americans for Fair Taxation has an article on today’s WSJ Opinion page, defending the Fair Tax. Mr. Linbeck indicates that ‘much is written today about the Fair Tax…..unfortunately, much of it is wrong.’ He points out that ‘Along with getting rid of the IRS and the complexities of the tax code, the Fair Tax would eliminate the distorting effect that income and payroll taxes have on the economy. Research on the price of consumer goods reveals that up to 20% of all prices today represent hidden income taxes and payroll taxes. Once these taxes are repealed and replaced with the Fair Tax, it is likely that market pressure would force retail prices to fall.’
He points out many other myths and untruths about the Fair Tax, but the bottom line is that in the end things we buy may end up costing 2-3% more than they do today, but we will have all those income taxes available to us that will not be deducted from our paychecks!
None of the proposed solutions may be perfect, but one thing is certain, we cannot leave the existing system in tact. A Boston Tea Party is in the near future, either for the Fair Tax, or something else other than what we have.
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