Conspiracy Theory: TWA800 WAS downed by the US Navy — not a “theory” any more

Tuesday, July 22, 2025

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/07/twa_flight_800_and_the_government_s_decades_long_cover_up.html

July 12, 2025
TWA Flight 800 And The Government’s Decades-Long Cover-Up
By Mark Adams

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Can Americans trust their government? Recent evidence suggests that our institutions will lie to us. Consider that, just a few days ago, we learned that, contrary to 60 years of CIA denials, a CIA officer had been involved in psychological operations connected to Lee Harvey Oswald months before John F. Kennedy’s assassination. Those of us who remember the government’s decades-long cover-up of its involvement in the July 1996 TWA crash were not surprised.

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None of this would have been made known to the public were it not for the relentless efforts of physicist Dr. Tom Stalcup. His efforts paid off in 2021 when he obtained several never-before-released FBI records. One described an “original [Navy radar] tape” showing an object “heading straight for TWA 800.” According to a lawsuit, “The FBI removed all copies (original and duplicates) of Navy radar tapes from the Navy…”

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The U.S. Missile Defense Agency, the Defense Department, the U.S. Navy, Raytheon Company, and Lockheed Martin Corp…every single one of these behemoths was accused of perpetrating a whopper of a cover-up. 

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Ultimately, it took Dr. Salcup twenty-five years, from 1996 to 2021, to obtain crucial evidence that firmly established that the FBI has outrageously lied about the true cause of the crash of TWA 800. This is a reminder of why Americans find it difficult to trust their government. Matters such as the Kennedy Assassination, Russia Hoax, the Epstein information, the IRS attacks on conservatives, etc. have led to Americans finding it difficult to believe the first, “official” version from the government. After all, they must always ask themselves, “Are you lying now or were you lying then?”

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While I’m sure that all the politicians and bureaucrats have long since fled the scene of the crime, I’d like someone to go back and extract a pound of flesh from all these liars.

I’d grant immunity to the low level minors who were just doing what they were told and have them “roll” on the higher ups.  Even if they are now dead and buried, “We, The Sheeple” should know “the truth”.

“Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.” Colonel Jessep in A Few Good Men played by Jack Nicholson

Makes me crazy to have been called a “Conspiracy Theorist”, a “tin foil hat”, or worse.  All the while these ne’er-do-wells have gotten away with a fraud upon “We, The People”.

Argh!

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Reinke Faces Life on TWA800

GOVERNACIDE: Litigation asserts that TWA800 was downed by the US Navy
Published 2022/09/30 at 6:43 pm   

GOVERNACIDE: Apparently TWA800 was downed by the US Navy
Published 2022/08/15 at 9:53 pm   

TINFOILHAT: Doesn’t TWA800 deserve scrutiny?
Published 2016/06/24 at 6:37 am

GOVERNACIDE: TWA800 is a national disgrace
Published 2016/06/15 at 6:37 am

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GOVERNACIDE: Litigation asserts that TWA800 was downed by the US Navy

Friday, September 30, 2022

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/09/could_the_twa_800_coverup_finally_come_undone.html

Could the TWA 800 Cover-Up Finally Come Undone?
By Jack Cashill

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As much as I would love to hear from a firsthand witness, I believe the courts hold more immediate potential. On June 28, 2022, attorney John Roddy with the Boston firm of Bailey and Glasser filed a lawsuit on behalf of numerous family members of those killed in the 1996 crash. Based on the research of physicist Tom Stalcup, the suit is stunning in its sophistication and detail.

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Well it certainly seems that this tin foil hat Conspiracy Theory is turning out to be true.  Have to move it up to “likely”.  All that’s left is for the Gooferment to settle the case and admit its responsibility.

I’m sure that NONE of the politicians and bureaucrats involved will suffer any ill effects.

Argh!

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TINFOILHAT: an email exchange about Conspiracy Theories and my Taxonomy and Ruler

Thursday, August 25, 2022

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 10:26 AM {REDACTED} wrote:

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-irs-training/fact-check-photos-do-not-show-irs-recruiting-or-training-program-for-thousands-of-new-armed-agents-idUSL1N2ZU12O

As a matter of curiosity, FJohn, have you kept a count over the years of how many predictions by conspiracy “exposers” have ever actually turned out to be accurate? On a percentage basis, maybe? 

Best,{REDACTED}

“…le philosophe n’a jamais tué de prêtres et le prêtre a tué beaucoup de philosophes…”
                                        ― Denis Diderot

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No, I haven’t.  But, it is IMHO surprisingly high.  For example, I blog under the heading of “tin foil hat” all the ones I hear about.  For example, TWA flight 800 was probably shot down by a Navy frigate by accident.  It was covered up by the Navy and the various Gooferment agencies.  Of course, it was dismissed as “yet another conspiracy theory”.  Just recently, after some number of years, credible testimony comes out that it was the Navy.  Now, of course, no one will formally admit that it was.  I guess too many lawsuits by the families and all the “tin foil hats” that were intimidated and disparaged.  Here’s a screen shot of the many blog postings I ranted about. 

Now granted that is just one example, but there are many many others.  That’s why a lot (half?) the country doesn’t believe the Gooferment, politicians,  bureaucrats, the media, or “celebrities’.  “I wouldn’t believe you, if your tongue came notarized.” … attributed to Judge Marilyn Milian, but may have an earlier history. 

Sorry, but I’ve been red pilled for a while.  For me, it started with the JFK assassination.  I was never a “gun nut” but was always interested in them.  When I heard what Oswald allegedly used as a rife, the distance, and angle, I began to suspect that this whole store was “barbara streisand” (i.e., BS; bull <synonym for excrement>).  I also took note of a Dorthy Killgalan’s murder; she was hot on the trail of the story of JFK’s assasination.

If you think it would be “interesting” or useful, I could begin to create an itemized list.  I did start to develop a taxonomy or scale for a Conspiracy Theory meter.  So, for example, I’d categorize TWA 800 as “Governmental (Conspiracy Theory)” and set the dial from “plausible” to “more likely than not”.  I’m just waiting for the chance to move it to “proven” when the Gooferment formally admits its actions. 

Maybe if DJT45 becomes DJT47, it could happen.  But I’m not holding my breath. 

This is probably more than you wanted to know, but I’ll make a good blog post.
Laugh!Crazy Old Ferd

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The terms “red pill” and “blue pill” refer to a choice between the willingness to learn a potentially unsettling or life-changing truth by taking the red pill or remaining in contented ignorance with the blue pill. The terms refer to a scene in the 1999 film The Matrix.

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Clearly, like all “good” Conspiracy Theories, it has some plausibility.  Money, motive, opportunity … …. and best of all it has “that’s just crazy” defense.  

I’ll have to dig out my “conspiracy theory” ruler to measure how to label this.

Remember my 2010 taxonomy on conspiracy theory: (1) Government; (2) Political; (3) Historical; and (4) Miscellaneous. S0 I may have to add a “Commercial” category. Can’t find my conspiracy theory ruler.  Guess I’ll have to reinvent it. Argh!  The scale would go from “Generally Accepted As True” all the way to “Generally Accepted As False” with “tab stops” at “unlikely”, “plausible”, “possible”, “less likely than not”, “more likely than not”.  

I welcome input on my scale.For this one, I’d assign it a label of “plausible”.  I take no opinions but would like to see evidence (i.e., a Pfizer email; a check to the parties involved).  Rumors and innuendo can move it on the scale.

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Conspiracy Theory Taxonomy and Ruler

* Governmental
* Political
* Historical
* Commercial
* Miscellaneous

Conspiracy Theory Taxonomy Ruler

1. Generally Accepted As True
2. Unlikely
3. Plausible
4. Possible
5. More likely than not
6. Less likely than not
7. Generally Accepted As False

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GOVERNACIDE: Apparently TWA800 was downed by the US Navy

Monday, August 15, 2022

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/08/the_twa_800_whistleblower_is_legit.html

The TWA 800 Whistleblower Is Legit
By Jack Cashill

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In the past few weeks, I have received numerous inquiries about ten-year Navy veteran William Henry Teele III. After years of quietly providing information to me and other investigators into the July 1996 destruction of TWA Flight 800 off the coast of Long Island, Teele has gone public and is naming names.

I shared some of Teele’s information in my 2016 book, TWA 800: The Crash, The Cover-Up, The Conspiracy. Teele did not claim to be on the ship that fired the missile. He was on the USS Carr, a guided missile frigate that was one of the “combatants” in the battle group that destroyed the unfortunate 747 and killed the 230 souls on board. Everything that I could verify about Teele’s account back then checked out.

In the six years since, Teele has reached out to many of his fellow sailors and fleshed out his account. Although he has appeared on several podcasts in recent weeks, his uninterrupted narrative on the Duke Report is the most compelling. I would welcome those with relevant experience to contact me through my website, cashill.com, to offer your assessment of Teele’s account or to provide additional information. My research suggests Teele is the real deal but I remain open, as all journalists should, to contrary information.

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Yes, another “conspiracy theory” becomes factual.

When do the courts martial begin?  

As always, the cover up is worse than the crime.

What about the poor passengers and their families?

Who prosecute all those in the various Gooferment agencies that covered for the Navy?

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TINFOILHAT: Doesn’t TWA800 deserve scrutiny?

Friday, June 24, 2016

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/06/jack_cashills_emtwa_800em_time_to_reopen_the_investigation.html

June 22, 2016
Jack Cashill’s TWA 800: Time to Reopen the Investigation
By Roger Aronoff

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/06/jack_cashills_emtwa_800em_time_to_reopen_the_investigation.html#ixzz4CQP8hMPj Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

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This July marks the 20th anniversary of the crash. Yet the media continue their virtual blackout, failing to ask questions as to whether this was a terrorist incident or a naval exercise gone wrong. Last year the anniversary of the flight’s demise was greeted, at most, with local media reports. It remains to be seen whether this year the mainstream media will take seriously the deaths of the 230 people on board that flight.

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One has to ask some serious questions about the Gooferment version. Like why did they have to “cook the books” on the various witness statements?

If that is suspect, then there are only two logical explanations:

   (1) the Navy did it; OR

   (2) the terrorists did it.

I’d almost that the Navy did it by accident. At least, that would NOT have the implications that terrorists did it.

So, if it was terrorism, then why not repeat it?

Maybe they can’t. Maybe the Gooferment has taken steps to protect against it. Maybe they are just saving it as part of a larger plan.

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GOVERNACIDE: TWA800 is a national disgrace

Wednesday, June 15, 2016

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/06/twa_800_what_the_cia_did_to_witness_571_mike_wire.html

June 9, 2016
TWA 800: What the CIA Did to Mike Wire, Witness 571
By Mike Wire

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I do not know who generated this false interview to fit their scenario, but I stand by my original approved statement made to agent Lash. No other statement exists as there were none. The CIA built its case-closing animation around an interview that never took place. I would learn later that the CIA manufactured interviews with several other key witnesses.

This whole experience has left me disillusioned with the FBI, disillusioned with the CIA, and totally disillusioned with the news media that bought this whole story without ever questioning it — even after the truth about the fake interviews had become impossible to deny.

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Some one decided that it would be best if “We, The Sheeple” remained asleep.

Imagine the uproar if (1) this was terrorist attack; or (2) a Gooferment blunder.

My money is on Gooferment blunder by the Navy. Based on other items that I’ve cited before.

But, a terrorist can’t be rolled out. 

If it was a terrorist, then why haven’t we seen more of these style accounts. I can’t imagine that terrorists wouldn’t brag or repeat.

So how do we distill the truth.

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TINFOILHAT: TWA 800 — a terrorist attack OR a US Navy blunder?

Friday, July 25, 2014

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/why_congress_must_reopen_the_twa_800_investigation.html

July 7, 2014
Why Congress Must Reopen the TWA 800 Investigation
By Jack Cashill

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There is much more, and I would invite those interested to read Hughes’s testimony in full. “During the course of my 42-year career as an investigator,” Hughes concludes, “the investigation of TWA Flight 800 was the only case in which I witnessed deception, lies and corruption on the parts of investigators and their management. The extraordinary measures to which the NTSB, FBI and CIA went to falsify and distort witness statements or accounts of what occurred, to alter and hide physical evidence and to mount a false public relations campaign to misinform the public, was unconscionable.”

Given its need to protect the “corporate memory,” no one really expected the NTSB to open this potentially criminal can of worms on its own. Now it is left to Congress, and if Congress does not act, no one will.

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Either this was a terrorist attack OR a US Navy blunder. Nothing else makes sense.

Personally, I would accept either explanation if it was the truth.

Of course, a terrorist attack would not fit the political narrative that “the Homeland is secure”.

A naval blunder would be almost as embarrassing.

Sigh!

Unfortunately, once again, “We, The People” may never know the real truth.

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