MONEY: What to hold and in what form?

Thursday, October 9, 2025
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In my mind, what form of “gold” should I be buying?  
  • Dollar cost averaging into ₿ at Swan.com has been an easy winner.  
  • GOLDBACKs despite a significant seigniorage  —  now with 1 oz gold spot $3,892.75; then 1000 GOLDBACKS is about $7,820 per ounce equals about 100%  —  makes it unsuitable for holding any significant amount of gold in GOLDBACKs. But one can have extremely small (i.e., ½ GOLDBACK = 1/2000 T Oz. for $3.91 for 0.0005 of an Oz) amount of gold that can’t be replicated in a physical form at any price.  Smallest physical gold product is 1 gram = 0.0176 of an ounce for about 90$ which equates to 15K$ per oz.
  • SILVERBACKs have even a worse ratio.
  • SILVER can be held in 1 ounce rounds or pre-1964 US Coins aka junk silver.  One ounce rounds can be bought at about $50 per oz which is about $2 over the spot price.  Seigniorage is about 4.25%
  • GOLD can be bought in 1 ounce generic rounds for $4,002.85; spot is 3,893.85. Seigniorage is about 2.79%
It’s a hard call because of the high cost barrier to entry.  To be practical, 20 oz of gold (one sleeve) is 80k$ and a sleeve of silver is $1k.
 
Feels like silver is the way to go.
 
YMMV
 
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MONEY: “Labor Day” is a reminder of the effect of fiat money on the labor wage rate — Where is the $ 22-per-hour minimum wage?

Monday, September 4, 2023

https://schiffgold.com/commentaries/we-dont-need-better-government-policies-for-workers-we-need-better-money/

We Don’t Need Better Government Policies for Workers; We Need Better Money
August 31, 2023 by Michael Maharrey

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Labor Day is coming up. That means we will hear a lot about the plight of American workers. And we will undoubtedly hear calls for new policies to help make their lives better. But we don’t really need more government policies to help workers.

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When he announced the closing of the gold window, Nixon said, “Let me lay to rest the bugaboo of what is called devaluation,” and promised, “Your dollar will be worth just as much as it is today.”

This was also a lie.

The dollar has lost more than 85% of its value since Nixon’s fateful decision, based on the CPI calculator. The purchasing power of a 1971 dollar is equal to less than 14 cents today.

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Johnson promised removing silver would have no impact on the value of US coinage. “[The] Treasury has a lot of silver on hand, and it can be, and it will be used to keep the price of silver in line with its value in our present silver coin,” he said.

He was lying, just like Nixon.

When LBJ signed the 1965 act, the value of a dollar was almost exactly the same as it had been in 1792—0.77 ounces of silver. By 1980 the dollar had plunged to 0.02 ounces of silver. Today, a dollar today is valued at about 0.06 ounces of silver.

What does this have to do with the minimum wage?

Consider this: In 1964, the minimum wage stood at $1.25. To put it another way, a minimum wage worker earned five silver quarters for every hour worked. Today, you can’t even buy a cup of coffee with those five quarters at face value.

But today, the silver melt value of those five quarters stands at over $22.

That’s a $ 22-per-hour minimum wage.

Now flip things around. Today, it takes 88 quarters to pay a $20 minimum wage. If you paid that in 1964 silver quarters, the value of the metal would be something in the neighborhood of $390!

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That’s a $ 22-per-hour minimum wage.

So it you’re asking for a higher “minimum wage”, remember that the same Gooferment asking is the one that screwed you in the first place!

Focus on the true cause of “inflation” and why you can’t make ends meet.

Argh!

Happy “Labor” day, suckers.

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INSPIRATIONAL: The value of time

Friday, May 20, 2022

https://palexander.substack.com/p/the-last-wishes-of-alexander-the?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0MTQyNTAzMCwicG9zdF9pZCI6NTQ4NDMyMzUsIl8iOiI4Wkx4aCIsImlhdCI6MTY1MjU0MjE1MSwiZXhwIjoxNjUyNTQ1NzUxLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNTc5MzU2Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.ZJGAnfu5Bt83VIBS_AjP9GF2nPJBx6I-5NZuQn_U07Q&s=r

“The last wishes of Alexander the Great”; I am seeking to verify this by some fast extensive reading, but if so, this is stunning and I wanted to share…so light reading 
Dr. Paul Alexander

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The Greatest Military General in History,, who only lived to be 32 Years old

“My first desire is that”, said Alexander, “My physicians alone must” carry my coffin.”

2) After a pause, he continued, “Secondly, I desire that when my coffin is being carried to the grave, the path leading to the graveyard be strewn with gold, silver and precious stones which I have collected in my treasury”.

3) “My third and last wish is that both my hands be kept dangling out of my coffin”.

The people who had gathered there wondered at the king’s strange wishes.

One of his generals who was surprised by these unusual requests asked Alexander to explain.

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Read further for the logic.

And, I really don’t care if it’s true or apocryphal.

“I fear all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant.” — apocryphal quote attributed to Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto played by Mako in the movie ‘Pearl Harbor’

It’s so true.  And, I wish I had GROKKED it as a young lad.  I did become a little L libertarian due to Robert A. Heinlein; maybe I should have absorbed the value of my time at that time. Not seven decades later.

Tempus fugit

https://youtu.be/0Zo0zN8ug-M

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GOLDBUG: Time to diversify savings?

Saturday, February 12, 2022

EMAIL TO LUDDITE AND OTHERS

Bitcoin: The Inevitable Path Toward Global Adoption Of The Next World Reserve Currency https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/bitcoin-inevitable-path-toward-global-adoption-next-world-reserve-currency

So, if the USD has a shelf life partially due to historical precedence and partially due to fiscal irresponsibility (overprinting of the money supply), what comes next? What replaces the USD? Another fiat currency? It’s possible, but my guess is the days of trusting a centralized party to maintain a stable supply of a currency have come and gone. Why trust, when you can just verify? An argument could be made that gold is today’s reserve asset as it is held by the majority of central banks.

RESPONSE

Not sure what to say on this, it’s above my pay grade.

MY CONCLUSION

Me neither. But, with the Gooferment’s inflation destroying the U$D’s value, it would seem that “diversification” of savings is essential to preserving what little wealth one has. 

Pre-1913, people saved gold and silver coins.  Since there was a gentle price deflation in the USA during that interval, it was a great strategy for preserving wealth.  After 1913, the erosion began, I blogged in June of 2006 about Evy’s Dad and his Fifty Dollar bill  —

https://reinkefaceslife.com/2006/06/30/rant-a-visit-from-one-of-my-favorite-socialists/

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My now departed father in law used to have a folded up fifty dollar bill in his wallet. He had carried it their since he was a young man, so that he’d “never be broke”. He was blue collar working guy. Salt of the either. Raised his family, paid his bills, and did the best he could. He was poor! BUT, he never realized, (I didn’t tell him cause he wouldn’t have believed me! I was just a child in his eyes.) that HIS beloved DEMOCRATIC (not that the R’s are any different), silently stole his “fifty in sunken city”. Yup, when he put that Fifty in his wallet if could buy lots of stuff: A hundred gallons of gasoline. Feed his family for a week. Ffity cartons of his beloved Lucky Strikes. Pay an entire hospital bill for an accident. It had value 60 years ago. After 60 years of inflation, I didn’t have the heart to tell him that his beloved Fifty was really was worth about 13 cents. Sad isn’t it.

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As you know I like gold and silver bullion coins, but recently I’ve been thinking about diversifying to bitcoin.  Now I’m thinking about GOLDBACKS. I’ve dabble in BITCOIN and ETHERIUM.  I’ll probably dabble in GOLDBACKs too.  My bullion coin dealer is shifting out of coins and into middleman.  (Why use him when I can go directly AMPEX or others?). Sigh. So in March, I’ll be shifting.  Not sure exactly what mix but I’ll do something.

YMMV

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“Three hundred years from now where will you be and where shall I be?” — Thich Nhat Hanh

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MONEY: Bloomberg Intelligence Projects $50 Silver in 2021 | SchiffGold

Friday, January 1, 2021

DECEMBER 23, 2020  BY SCHIFFGOLD   0   0 Saxo Bank recently projected silver will soar to $50 an ounce in 2021, powered by loose monetary policy along with the push for “green energy.” Bloomberg Intelligence is now making a similar call, saying silver will be “the primary metal” benefiting from electrification and quantitative easing in 2021. Gold set a new record earlier this year and briefly traded above $2,000 an ounce. In a recent report, Bloomberg Intelligence senior commodity strategist Mike McGlone predicted silver will follow gold toward a record high of its own.

Bloomberg Intelligence Projects $50 Silver in 2021 | SchiffGold

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Clearly higher metal prices are predicting inflation from all the FED’s action to stimulate the economy.

The result will be a harder life for the “middle class” if there is any such left.

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MONEY: Virginia repeals sales taxes on money

Tuesday, January 23, 2018

http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2018/01/now-in-effect-virginia-law-takes-first-step-to-support-sound-money/

Now in Effect: Virginia Law Takes First Step to Support Sound Money

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RICHMOND, Va. (Jan. 7, 2018) –  On Jan. 1, a Virginia law that repeals sales taxes from some purchases of gold and silver went into effect. It represents an important first step toward encouraging its regular use as currency and breaking the Federal Reserve’s monopoly on money.

A bipartisan coalition of delegates and senators sponsored House Bill 1668 (HB1668) and Senate Bill 934 (SB934). The legislation exempts gold, silver, and platinum bullion or legal tender coins whose sales price exceeds $1,000 from state sales tax. Each piece of gold, silver, or platinum or legal tender coin need not exceed $1,000, provided that the sales price of one entire transaction of such pieces exceeds $1,000. With gold over $1,000 an ounce, a single bullion coin will exceed this threshold.

Under the new law, the exemption will remain in place until June 30, 2022.

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This seems to be the first step to “killing” the Fed.

It’s a backdoor way but who cares how we can do it. Just that we do!

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MONEY: THOSE SAME THREE SILVER DIMES

Monday, July 7, 2014

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Brecht/2014-07-03-Gas-Prices-Near-6-Year-Highs-No-Inflation-Who-Says.html

Gas Prices Near 6-Year Highs, No Inflation? Who SaysThursday
July 03, 2014 12:59

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While official government statistics show U.S. inflation at still low levels, anyone who buys gas, food or health insurance can attest to the fact that inflation exists in our everyday lives. GasBuddy has predicted that U.S. consumers will see the most expensive July 4th since 2008 at the gas pump.

Despite the dramatic increase in U.S. oil production in recent years, GasBuddy estimates that Americans are likely to pay about $1.435 billion per day for gasoline during the holiday week, about $50 million more each day, or $350 million more per week than last year.

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Any wonder why the “stock market” is going up while the “standard of living” is going down like the Titanic!

The value of the Federal Reserve Note!

THREE silver dimes from 1964, when I started buying gas, would buy ONE GALLON of gas. At $21.15 per silver ounce, those SAME THREE SILVER DIMES are worth $5.70. Far more than a gallon of gas. (Never mind that today’s gas is better, cleaner, and healthier.)

So what’s changed?

The value of money has been inflated away by the Gooferment politicians and bureaucrats for the benefit of the Crony Capitalists and the Banking Cartel.

When do The Sheeple wake up?

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MONEY: A negative on bitcoin

Saturday, January 18, 2014

http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=31861

26 Reasons Why I Will Never Support Bitcoin
By Silver Shield, on December 21st, 2013

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20. Then there is that anti government aspect of it.  Really? It seems the Anglo American bankers love it, including Ben Bernanke and JP Morgan.  It is right up their alley with something for nothing.  They may crack down on Bitcoin only to launch their own brand.  Look at the Lotto.  They went after the mob for running numbers, but then made it legal for them to profit off of.  They went after Charles Ponzi and then created their own Ponzi Scheme with Social Security.  I am telling you Bitcoin or something just like Bitcoin will be used to sell to the people after the dollar collapse, a new electronic worthless currency.  Who knows maybe we will get bonus points for watching TV and using it?  They already have millions hooked on EBT cards, get the corporations involved and the government muscle and you could see the final realization of a digital currency where they can cut you off if you get out of line.  How many stories do we already hear about bank bailins and IRS and NSA messing with people’s bank accounts.  Having real wealth outside of the system is the only antidote for that.

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It’s the “intrinsic value” argument that hits me hardest.

In POW camps of WW2, cigarettes were “money”.

Gold and silver have the advantage of “intrinsic value”. Junk silver, (i.e., pre-1964 US coins), will be the money of TEOTWAWKI (The End Of The World As We Know It)!

The survivalist community plans to use ammo as money. As well as commodities, like liquor, can be barter fodder. 

Remember barter will precede “money”.

So, save wealth in forms that are not paper!

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MONEY: Serious diversification

Thursday, October 24, 2013

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/10/robert-wenzel/get-your-money-out-of-the-banks-3/

IT IS TIME: Move Your Money Out of the US Banking System
By Robert Wenzel
Economic Policy Journal
October 19, 2013

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It is time for serious diversification. Depending upon the size of your assets, there are different things that should be done. But almost everyone should have some cash and gold coins stored outside the banking system. Those with significant assets should begin international diversification now, while it is still possible. I don’t consider any country completely safe from the clutches of the US government so international diversification, among many countries, is also called for: Switzerland and Hong Kong for starters, but also other countries that are not known as tax havens, the USG has their claws into these countries, be creative.

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Time to store: water, beans, bullets, and bandaids … … not necessarily in that order.

Followed by bullion — nickels, silver, and gold.

Note: Not paper!

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POLITICAL: the Rosa Parks of alternative money

Thursday, October 10, 2013

http://dailyreckoning.com/the-domestic-terrorist-you-can-call-a-hero/

Daily Reckoning
The “Domestic Terrorist” You Can Call a Hero
Jeffrey Tucker
Posted Sep 10, 2013.

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I dreamed I saw Bernard von NotHaus, alive as you or me.

Said I, “But Bernard, you’ve been jailed two years.”

“I never was,” said he.

Bernard has been the called the Rosa Parks of the alternative money movement. More than 10 years ago, he had this idea that he would make his own money — not the fake stuff we are used to, but the real stuff made of actual silver. He called his currency the Liberty Dollar (and why not, since there is no trademark on the word dollar?).

The feds raided him in in 2006. In 2007, the government outright stole 2 tons of coins from him, many of them featuring an image of Ron Paul, plus 500 silver coins and 50 gold coins. They threw him in jail and dragged his name through the mud many times.

He was later convicted of making counterfeit coins — an ironic conviction given that he was making silver coins to compete with official coins made out of scrap metal. That conviction was in March 2011, fully 2½ years ago. The government labeled him a “domestic terrorist.” Yet — and this is what amazed me — he still hasn’t been sentenced. He walks around as free as you or me.

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It’s all about keeping the Sheeple sleeping.

I bought Liberty Dollars.

As a hedge.

The two silver discs are a little tarnished, but retain their value.

I forget what I paid for them but they have “held” their value.

The only mistake Bernard made was to put the word “dollar” on them. 

(Even though it’s not a restricted term.)

He should have just stuck to the weight.

But they are no more “counterfeit” than they are “worthless”.

Argh!

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