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GOVERNACIDE: FDR was responsible for Pearl Harbor

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2019-Dec-07

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-07/pearl-harbor-day-one-which-fdr-shoulders-infamy

Pearl Harbor Day: One For Which FDR Shoulders ‘Infamy’
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 12/07/2018 – 21:45
Authored by Daniel Oliver, op-ed via The Daily Caller,

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On December 7, 1941 the Empire of Japan bombed the U.S. Pacific Fleet which was stationed in Pearl Harbor on the Hawaiian island of Oahu. In addressing Congress the next day, President Roosevelt called it “a date which will live in infamy.”

But Roosevelt’s reputation should live in infamy too. The line that Roosevelt enthusiasts and left-wing historians have peddled for so many years is that the attack was a complete surprise.

Here’s a sample from The American Pageant, a typical left-wing American history textbook widely used in American high schools:

Officials in Washington, having “cracked” the top-secret code of the Japanese, knew that Tokyo’s decision was for war … Roosevelt, misled by Japanese ship movements in the Far East, evidently expected the blow to fall on British Malaya or on the Philippines. No one in high authority in Washington seems to have believed that the Japanese were either strong enough or foolhardy enough to strike Hawaii.

That’s the left’s version, and it’s in line with the rest of the “fake history” they want American high school students to learn. The Education and Research Institute (ERI — of which I am chairman) has written a critique of The American Pageant, which tells a more accurate story about Pearl Harbor and scores of other events in American history.

The American Pageant gives almost no blame to FDR for the Pearl Harbor disaster — even though the United States had broken the Japanese secret code and knew an attack was imminent. The textbook authors assure us that “no one in high authority in Washington seems to have believed that the Japanese” had the ability to launch such an attack.

But that is simply wrong. Some high-ranking members of the U.S. Navy did believe a surprise attack at Pearl Harbor was possible, but FDR disagreed with them and he removed those contrary voices from positions of power.

The commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbor was Admiral J. O. (Joe) Richardson. Unlike Roosevelt, Richardson did not underestimate the Japanese — and he had studied them and the dangerous Pearl Harbor location thoroughly.

Richardson said that a simulated aerial attack that the U.S. had conducted at Pearl Harbor in 1932 proved that torpedo planes could cripple any fleet stationed there.

Even before Roosevelt ordered the Pacific Fleet to stay at Pearl Harbor indefinitely, Richardson had protested that keeping the fleet there posed a danger to every ship. He had been attempting to monitor the military movements of the Japanese to give the United States time to evacuate Pearl Harbor in case of danger

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My Uncles always believed that FDR was responsible for Pearl Harbor.  And NOT in the sense of, “the buck stops here”!  They knew from the (real; not fake news) that military decisions were made at the White House. (One of them worked for decades in the Navy Department.)

FDR needed to end the Great Depression that was caused by the politicians and bureaucrats messing with the economy.  What better way to ensure prosperity than by a war that would never come to America.  

Argh!

“We, The Sheeple” don’t recognize the politicians and bureaucrats as “war criminals” and traitors to the civil society.

How many more people have to die before this “terrible genie” of Gooferment is put back in Pandora’s box?

Time for another revolution?

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TINFOILHAT: FDR and Pearl Harbor?

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/patrick-j-buchanan/did-fdr-provoke-pearl-harbor-2/

Did FDR Provoke Pearl Harbor?
By Patrick J. Buchanan
December 9, 2014

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At a Nov. 25 meeting of FDR’s war council, Secretary of War Henry Stimson’s notes speak of the prevailing consensus: “The question was how we should maneuver them (the Japanese) into … firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.”’

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After reading Stinnet’s book “Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor”   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Deceit, I joined the “Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge conspiracy theory” believers.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_theory

While we may never know for sure, we can be sure that the Gooferment, and its politicians and bureaucrats, should NEVER be trusted. EVER!

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TINFOILHAT: We’re the “sane” ones? We don’t buy the lies at face value

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http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/are-conspiracy-theorists-really-the-sane-ones/

WND EXCLUSIVE
ARE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS REALLY THE SANE ONES?
University study shows they are more well-grounded than others
Published: 20 hours ago
author-image GINA LOUDON

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Invented term

DeHaven-Smith said that the term “conspiracy theorist” was invented and made popular intentionally by the CIA in an effort to discredit those who asked questions surrounding the assassination of JFK.

Since the CIA is banned from domestic activities, if true, it is illegal, contends Kevin Barrett of Press TV.

He said “people who use the terms ‘conspiracy theory’ and ‘conspiracy theorist’ as an insult are doing so as the result of a well-documented, undisputed, historically real conspiracy by the CIA to cover up the JFK assassination.”

“That campaign, by the way, was completely illegal,” he continued, “and the CIA officers involved were criminals; the CIA is barred from all domestic activities, yet routinely breaks the law to conduct domestic operations ranging from propaganda to assassinations.”

Research seems to be trending in support of some of these claims. An abstract of a recent study published by researchers at the University of Kent in the U.K. looked at trends in social media.

The study collected comments and organized them into “conspiracist” and “conventionalist” categories. They assert that “conspiracy theorists” might be more well-grounded, even more sane, than those who accept conventional wisdom on contested events.

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My first “tin foil hat” was my Uncle Louie.

He was firmly convinced that Pearl Harbor was instigated by FDR.

I remember my father and other uncles and aunts tell him he was “crazy”.

He didn’t have “evidence”, but even at that time all the decision makers were “out of touch” for the duration of the crisis. (Remind you of BHO and Hillary’s red phone commercial. And, Benghazi-gate?)

I heard grumblings in Grammar and High School history. Many of the Christian Brothers were old vets. No one had “evidence”, but all had different “suspicions.

The thing common to most of the discussion was “why were the carriers at sea when the fleet was in port?” 

A fact.

Not evidence.

I read a lot about WW2. Then WW1. 

I saw all the movies. 

I was a war monger.

Then came Viet Nam.

And stuff came out by dribs and drabs.

Then, many moons later, in 1999, I read: “Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor” by by Robert Stinnett 

And, I was “tin foil hat”!

Stinnett’s evidence, much of it circumstantial, convinced me that everyone lied!

From that it was short trip to the Lusitania carried munitions, Gulf of Tolkin never happened, JFK was killed by the CIA and LBJ, … and on and on.

So, if the Gooferment, their willing propagandists in the “media”, most politicians and bureaucrats say something, I demand “evidence”!

They could say “the Sun will rise tomorrow” and I want proof.

Argh!

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TINFOILHAT: Pearl Harbor was an “inside job”

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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/the-american-and-british-government-knew-down-to-the-day-of-the-coming-japanese-attack-on-pearl-harbor-and-let-it-happen-to-justify-american-entry-into-wwii.html

The American and British Governments Knew – Down to the Day – of the Coming Japanese Attack on Pearl Harbor … And Let It Happen to Justify American Entry Into WWII

Posted on October 15, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog

Military Officers and Code Breakers Speak Out … On Camera

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But a full and honest account of World War II shows that some big American banks funded the Nazis. And America dropped nuclear bombs on Japan when top U.S. military officials said it wasn’t needed.

And – as shown below – we probably knew about the coming Pearl Harbor attack, but let it happen to justify America’s entry into World War II.

The White House apparently had – a year before Pearl Harbor – launched an 8-point plan to provoke Japan into war against the U.S. (including, for example, an oil embargo). The rationale for this provocation is that the U.S. wanted to aid its allies in fighting the Nazis and other axis powers, and decided that an attack by Japan would be the most advantageous justification for the U.S. to enter WWII.

Moreover, Honolulu newspapers warned of a possible attack by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor:

Indeed, as the following must-watch BBC documentary – with interviews with many of the main players, including military officers and code-breakers – shows, the American and British knew of the Japanese plan to attack Pearl Harbor — down to the exact date of the attack — and allowed it to happen to justify America’s entry into World War II:

And see this short essay by a highly-praised historian summarizing some of the key points. (The historian, Robert B. Stinnett, a World War II veteran, actually agreed with this strategy for getting America into the war, and so does not have any axe to grind).

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I read Stinnett’s book many years ago. I was convinced with the “smoke” from the gun he laid out in the book.

Now we have testimony!

Seems like this one for the Tin Foil Hats.

Maybe the people won’t be so quick to dismiss suspicions.

Sad that so many people died and so man lives disrupted for so many generations.

We can’t total up all the costs.

Time to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

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TINFOILHAT: FDR’s role in Pearl Harbor

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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=374765

Did FDR provoke Pearl Harbor?
Pat Buchanan
Posted: December 05, 2011

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Said ex-President Herbert Hoover, Republican statesman of the day, “We have only one job to do now, and that is to defeat Japan.”

But to friends, “the Chief” sent another message: “You and I know that this continuous putting pins in rattlesnakes finally got this country bit.”

Today, 70 years after Pearl Harbor, a remarkable secret history, written from 1943 to 1963, has come to light. It is Hoover’s explanation of what happened before, during and after the world war that may prove yet the death knell of the West.

Edited by historian George Nash, “Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover’s History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath” is a searing indictment of FDR and the men around him as politicians who lied prodigiously about their desire to keep America out of war, even as they took one deliberate step after another to take us into war.

Yet the book is no polemic. The 50-page run-up to the war in the Pacific uses memoirs and documents from all sides to prove Hoover’s indictment. And perhaps the best way to show the power of this book is the way Hoover does it – chronologically, painstakingly, week by week.

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At a Nov. 25 meeting of FDR’s war council, Secretary of War Henry Stimson’s notes speak of the prevailing consensus: “The question was how we should maneuver them (the Japanese) into … firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.”

“We can wipe the Japanese off the map in three months,” wrote Navy Secretary Frank Knox.

As Grew had predicted, Japan, a “hara-kiri nation,” proved more likely to fling herself into national suicide for honor than to allow herself to be humiliated.

Out of the war that arose from the refusal to meet Prince Konoye came scores of thousands of U.S. dead, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the fall of China to Mao Zedong, U.S. wars in Korea and Vietnam, and the rise of a new arrogant China that shows little respect for the great superpower of yesterday.

If you would know the history that made our world, spend a week with Mr. Hoover’s book.

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“Past is prologue”.

The Presidency has been out of control since Lincoln; it became “Imperial” with Teddy and Wilson.

We know that the “Northwinds” memo demonstrates that the Gooferment is not above starting a war to get more power over the people.

We really need to listen more to the lovable “tin foil hats”, like me, because they are not necessarily wrong.

Jut go thru the litany of tin foil hat arguments, and you’ll find gems.

Who’s hiding what and when?

“We, The Sheeple” need a wake up call.

It seems OBVIOUSLY apparent that FDR wanted a war because he took steps that everyone agreed would lead to it.

Then the crocodile tears and feigned outrage when Japan attacked.

Argh!

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