INTERESTING: Tom Woods on Economics and American History

Monday, July 18, 2011

A great thirty minutes.

Wish I’d seen it in High School.

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RANT: Responding to a comment about “Gooferment Skrules”

Monday, February 7, 2011

>Corporate America, … are all on board for school “privatization”

In America, I doubt you could get that lot “on board” for anything. And, btw, the Facebook guy gave his money to what? Wasn’t it a “public school system”?

>charter schools and school vouchers would be dead in the water

The really ARE “dead in the water”. The Teacher’s Union will ensure that they are crippled out of the box with restrictions and conditions.

>libertarians hate public schools because they are selfish

No, this little L libertarian hates Gooferment Skrules because they are funded by force.

>just don’t want to pay taxes.

You’re right. I want to buy services in the marketplace where I can pick and choose. Yes to Burger King; no to Wendy’s. I don’t want to be forced to fund McD’s and then told “but you’re free to go elsewhere.” If you steal my wealth, (what little of it I have), then I am NOT free.

>They got their public education

Nope; I got none of that there “pub lick eddykation”.

>attitude is tough luck to the children who are

>being educated in public schools.

Were that they WERE being “educated” in those Gooferment Skrules! They are being propagandized! And, poorly at that. If you look at the stats.

>I received a public education

Well, good for you. Nice to hear that the money poured down the rathole wasn’t totally wasted. And, I’m sure you will tell us how wonderful that Gooferment education was. No propaganda or brain washing there. You’re just defending anything the Gooferment does because that’s the right way to do it.

>I consider it to be an investment in the future.

I love when folks muddle the language. “Investment” is when someone puts capital at risk in hope of a return. My capital was seized by the State and I have no hope of a return. It ain’t “investment” to spend stolen wealth on the euphemism of “public schools”. It’s about “milking the system” for the benefit of politicians, bureaucrats, and their “friends”.

> I got my public education and I want current and future kids to receive a public education.

And, I want to be thin, young, hndsome, and live in peace with my neighbors. It ain’t going to happen! For as long as you and your gang of costumed thugs continue to rob me like a mafia.

>We pool our tax dollars for the common good

No, WE DON’T “pool”. We are ROBBED to fund the things that the elite think are important.

Why do I have to be robbed to to fund any of those things. If I want that “service”, I should be allowed to “buy” it.

Just because, you yell about the Gooferment paying for stuff, doesn’t make it the only way or the right way to do it.

Because ALL Gooferment actions are rooted in FORCE — forcing people to pay for this stuff, those actions are IMMORAL and doomed to failure.

Those things that are NOT outright failures — and it’s hard to think of one thing that is not, are too costly when compared with “private” alternatives. (That’s because a “greedy” businessman is incentivized to satisfy the buyer at the lowest possible cost.)

> NJ public schools are top rated

That’s like saying I have the “prettiest pig in the pen”.

>graduation rates

Are manipulated by politicians and bureaucrats. For example, dropouts are not counted.

>population living in poverty

We disagree about the definition of “poverty”, but I blame the Gooferment for what you cite.

>some schools with serious challenges

Like graduating children scarred for life by not being able to read!

>If we had universal health care and state supported after school care

We’d all be broke and the problems would still exist!

>Germany or Finland have

So why are you here, trying to turn us into them.

>School choice is not a free ride

I don’t like anything that uses tax dollars. Parents had the children; they should educate them. It’s NOT my responsibility!

>Chinese immersion charter school is approved with no input from tax payers.

All Gooferment Skrules are nuts!

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NEWJERSEY: “Private funding for public schools”; no the issue is “public” schools!

Friday, February 4, 2011

“Private funding for public schools”

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real issues — funding disparity and a segregated state —

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How about the real issues:

(1) The Gooferment shouldn’t be indoctrinating future voters in worshiping at the alter of “big gooferment”.

(2) People forced to have their children taught things they find morally offensive in the name of “political correctness”.

(3) One group of folks forced to pay for the education of other people’s children — they had no vote in the decision to have children but are forced to pay for that decision.

(4) Parents are forced by geography to place and keep their children in failing schools.

(5) The infrastructure of “Gooferment Skrules” is corrupt — the Teacher’s Unions, Politicians and Bureaucrats are in an incestous relationship which screws the parents and taxpayers.

Those are the “real” issues!

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POLITICAL: Government schools

Sunday, January 9, 2011

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Government schools

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Some libertarians have the radical idea that parents should actually be responsible for making sure their children are educated. It worked before the twentieth century, and literacy rates were actually higher than they are today. Such people are a threat to all reason and civility, saying parents should be responsible for their children, and should be rounded up and placed into camps until further notice.

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I’d like to see the Separation of State and School!

During the tax revolt in New Jersey in the 80’s, I pitch a 40 year plan — two twenty years plans in succession. First, get the Gooferment out of the operation in 20 years. Second, get the Gooferment out of funding in 20 years. It’s baby steps, but it moves in clear distinct steps.

We can’t go from the current system to zero without a transition time. People need time to adjust and learn.


But, we can’t even do that!

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INTERESTING: Separate School and State!

Saturday, November 27, 2010

School Lessons
by Don Boudreaux on November 26, 2010
in Education,Other People’s Money

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But why don’t supermarkets, restaurants, churches, apartment complexes, clothing stores, dog groomers, and other service providers in Fairfax County encounter the same problems that plague the school system? After all, the county is growing just as fast and just as unevenly for these merchants as it is for Fairfax County Public Schools. Yet we never hear that some coffee shops or department stores continue to be overcrowded while others are well under capacity. Why might this be?

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Of course, the answer is that the politicians and bureaucrats can not possibly know the answers. And, even if they did, they can’t possibly know how to “price” it. (How much of taxpayer money to “invest” in “stuff”?) A McDonalds is easier; an owner figures out how much of his wealth to risk. Of course, he’s going to be “right” more than any bunch of politicians and bureaucrats.

Sorry, but we must separate School and State!

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QUOTE: School is a twelve-year jail sentence – John Taylor Gatto

Sunday, September 5, 2010

“School is a twelve-year jail sentence where bad habits are the only curriculum truly learned.” -– John Taylor Gatto

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GOVEROTRAGEOUS: Here’s why the Gooferment shouldn’t be involved in schools

Sunday, August 29, 2010

Miss. Middle School Bars Black Students From Running For Class President
At Nettleton Middle School, Student Government Posts Were Assigned by Race
Aug 27, 2010

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After 30 years of barring black students from running for class president, a Mississippi public middle school, reversed a Jim Crow era policy today and announced students of all races would be allowed to run for student government.

Students at Nettleton Middle School looking to run for class president, previously needed to maintain a B average, obtain 10 signatures from their classmates – and be white.

Rules issued last week outlined the school’s rules for seeking office. Students could run for president, vice president, secretary-treasurer and reporter, but some positions were off-limits depending on race.

In all three grades, only white students could run for president. In eighth grade black students could run for vice president and reporter. In seventh grade blacks could only run for secretary-treasurer, and in sixth grade only for reporter.

There were no assigned positions for students of other races and no mention of students who are mixed race.

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And, “We, The People” should throw the politicians and bureaucrats out of the “education” process.

“We, The People” are smarter than this.

Remember Walter William’s opinion on education. “If the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan wanted to sabotage black academic excellence, he could not find a more effective means to do so than the government school system in most cities.”

It’s immoral to do this to children. It’s immoral to propagandize them into being prisoners of the system. Any system.

It took us decades to get into this mess; it’ll take decades to get out. But let’s start. I’d propose a two part way out. (I wrote this up for the NJ tax revolt group HANJ which was hijacked by the Republican party,

(1) Each part would be twenty years.

(2) First part, we continue funding education as we do now. EXCEPT each student gets a voucher for X dollars. In year 1, all vouchers are “RED” meaning they must be “spent” at the local school district. Then each year, for the next 19, in a random draw, 5% of the vouchers turn “GREEN” meaning the parent can use that at a school of their choice. No limits. No Gooferment rules. At the end of 20 years, we now have a free market in education. The Gooferment o longer is operating youth propaganda camps.

(3) Second part, each year for the next twenty years, the value of the voucher decreases 5%. At the end of 20 years, we are no longer funding education; parents are. They had them; they should educate them.

And, I hope you’all have a much different society, much freer, than we do today!

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