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New comment on your post #3128 “LIBERTY: years of incarceration in these state Conformity Camps”
Author : Ken Jarvis
URL : http://VINISACOWARD
Comment:

HE WILL NEVER REPLY TO AN EMAIL
OR RETURN A PHONE CALL.
TO ANSWER THE QUESTION –
WHAT WOULD HE REPLACE PUBLIC SCHOOLS – WITH?

Ken Jarvis

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>HE WILL NEVER REPLY TO AN EMAIL OR RETURN A PHONE CALL.

I assume you mean Vin.

>TO ANSWER THE QUESTION –

Has anyone every told you that all uppercase is like yelling at someone.

>WHAT WOULD HE REPLACE PUBLIC SCHOOLS – WITH?

I can’t speak for Vin, but I can for myself.

I’d replace them with NOTHING!

During the nu jerzee florio tax revolt, I thought we could use vouchers for a weaning off period of say 20 years. We didn’t get into this mess overnight. So we can’t expect to get out overnight.

I don’t have it handy but it went something like this.

(1) 40 year plan to get the gooferment out of eddycation. First twenty, 5% of the students each year get a green voucher that they can spend for the education of their choice; the rest get a red on that can only be used at their local gooferment skoolz. Second twenty, the vouchers decrease 5% per year until they are zero.

(2) Parents choose, but the vouchers can’t be cashed. There are no gooferment standards for skoolz. If the parents sign over the voucher, then that’s it.

(3) Each existing gooferment skoolz is given to the principle, teachers, and custodians as a corporation. There has to be a bond for the guaranteed twenty years of students they are asked to educate.

At the end of 40 years, we are done.

:-)

fjohn

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>>HE WILL NEVER REPLY TO AN EMAIL OR RETURN A PHONE CALL.
>I assume you mean Vin.

Right.

>>TO ANSWER THE QUESTION –
>Has anyone every told you that all uppercase is like yelling at someone.

Yes,
but I use CAPS for EMPHASIS.

>>WHAT WOULD HE REPLACE PUBLIC SCHOOLS – WITH?
>I can’t speak for Vin, but I can for myself.
>I’d replace them with NOTHING!

No schools?
NONE at ALL?

No schools is NOT working well in
3rd world countries.

>During the nu jerzee florio tax revolt, I thought we could use vouchers for a weaning
>off period of say 20 years. We didn’t get into this mess overnight.
>So we can’t expect to get out overnight.
>I don’t have it handy but it went something like this.
>(1) 40 year plan to get the gooferment out of eddycation. First twenty, 5% of the students each year get a
>green voucher that they can spend for the education of their choice; the rest get a red on that can only be
>used at their local gooferment skoolz. Second twenty, the vouchers decrease 5% per year until they are zero.
>(2) Parents choose, but the vouchers can’t be cashed. There are no gooferment standards for skoolz. If the
>parents sign over the voucher, then that’s it.
>(3) Each existing gooferment skoolz is given to the principle, teachers, and custodians as a corporation.
>There has to be a bond for the guaranteed twenty years of students they are asked to educate.
>At the end of 40 years, we are done.

I am assuming this is an attempt at humor.

Otherwise it just sounds like BS to me.

Ken

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In this country – education is compulsory – learning is optional

THE WAY TO GIVE ALL STUDENTS THE BEST TRAINING IN ANY SUBJECT.

Why don’t they take THE BEST Teacher for EACH subject, and Videotape their class.

Then, play the video in EVERY CLASS ROOM, for that subject, in the state, and on PBS.

As an example, let’s use Freshman High School English.

Make Each Video 30 minutes.

The video would be played at the Beginning of each class
and the Remainder of the class time would be used for an
IN CLASS teacher to discuss the tape, and answer questions.

If a Student missed a class, they would be REQUIRED to watch those tapes.

That way EVERY student of Freshman English, in EVERY school in NV would
get the same information.
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Nevada should have a Goal to be the
BEST STATE IN THE UNION.

To be the Best State
we Need the Smartest People.

To have the Smartest People
they must be the BEST EDUCATED.

To get the Best Education
we Need the Best Teachers.

We get the BEST Teachers
by paying them better than any other state.

At present, NV has NO goal.

Ken Jarvis

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No, gooferment skoolz. We’ll still have schools. They just won’t be government run, government funded, or government regulated. No gooferment involvement at all.

Now before you freak out, we had great schools before the gooferment got involved. We will again.

Education is too important to be left to gooferment.

Parents don’t have children to leave them uneducated. They are an investment in the future and their legacy.

My plan was much more formal and had citations to working examples and research topics. The idea was essentially migrate out of the mess, out parents in charge, and “abandon” the current assets in the custody of the inmates.

Third world countries fail because their socialist gooferment enslave their people.

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> education is compulsory – learning is optional

We agree on that.

>THE WAY TO GIVE ALL STUDENTS THE BEST TRAINING IN ANY SUBJECT

There we disagree. There is no one “best” way. People are unique. And, the gooferment’s “one size fits all” solution (to EVERY problem) is exactly OPPOSITE what the free market will deliver. To satisfy the demand, we have MickeyDs, BurgerKing, and Wendys just to name a few. If the market does that with just “hamburgers”, imagine what it will do with education.

>NV GOAL: BEST STATE IN THE UNION

I’d suggest that the goal should be the “free-est” state. “Best” will follow quickly behind that.

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I loved NV in the 70’s. No gambling age, no drinking age, no speed limits. Where did you all go wrong?

:-)

I guess we’ll just have to disagree agreeably!

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>No, gooferment skoolz. We’ll still have schools. They just won’t be government run,
>government funded, or government regulated. No gooferment involvement at all.

WHO would build the schools?

Let’s start there.

>Now before you freak out, we had great schools before the gooferment got involved. We will again.

WHEN was that
The govt has ALWAYS RUN the schools.

>Education is too important to be left to gooferment.

What part of the govt
don’t you like?

We drive on govt built highways,
our money is in FDIC insured Banks,
the FHA finances my home,
I went to college on the GI Bill.

Other than Closing the schools
HOW would YOU fix things?

>Parents don’t have children to leave them uneducated. They are an investment in the future and their legacy.
>My plan

I must have missed it.
What is it?

>was much more formal and had citations to working examples and research topics.
>The idea was essentially migrate out of the mess, out parents in charge, and
>”abandon” the current assets in the custody of the inmates.

Third world countries fail because their socialist gooferment enslave their people.

Education is the MOST POWERFUL tool
anyone can have.

KJ

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KJ> education is compulsory – learning is optional
JR>We agree on that.
KJ>THE WAY TO GIVE ALL STUDENTS THE BEST TRAINING IN ANY SUBJECT

There we disagree. There is no one “best” way.

KJ>With the plan I present
KJ>ALL students HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME INFO.
KJ>It is what they do with it
KJ>that matters.

People are unique. And, the gooferment’s “one size fits all” solution (to EVERY problem) is exactly OPPOSITE what the free market will deliver.

KJ>How about an example.

To satisfy the demand, we have MickeyDs, BurgerKing, and Wendys just to name a few. If the market does that with just “hamburgers”, imagine what it will do with education.

KJ>Hamburgers – Schools?????
KJ> You say one place –
KJ>”exactly OPPOSITE what the free market will deliver.” (free market is good)
KJ>”If the market does that with just “hamburgers”, imagine what it will do with education.”
KJ> – (free market is bad)

OK.
I give up.
Which is it?

KJ>NV GOAL: BEST STATE IN THE UNION

I’d suggest that the goal should be the “free-est” state. “Best” will follow quickly behind that.

JR>I loved NV in the 70’s. No gambling age,

BS

JR>no drinking age,

BS

JR>no speed limits.

BS

JR>Where did you all go wrong?

Change that to –
Where did fjohn go wrong?
He started reading Vin
the Weedman.

KJ

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KJ>WHO would build the schools?

The same people who build mcdonalds, wendys, … and everything else. The “evil corporations” in search of a profit. They will “figure out” how to educate children in such a way that their parents will give them “certificates of appreciation” (i.e., money) for doing it.

KJ>The govt has ALWAYS RUN the schools

Government schools is relatively modern development. In the late 1800’s, the Prussian aristocracy wanted a population of factory workers and soldiers and they “invented” government education. In the early 1900, Horace Mann and Thomas Dewey imported that model to the United States. Prior to “mandatory attendance” laws, education was up to the parents. Communities formed schools (i.e., the one room school house) and they were voluntarily funded by the prominent citizens of the community. In the cities, churches and charities formed schools, and HOSPITALS, for the poor. It wasn’t until the 1950s that Big Gooferment moved in and “claimed” a mandate to provide “education”. Sigh, it has been ALL downhill since.

Lest you think not, there’s a high school graduation test from the 1890’s floating around on the net from some middle state. I tried it and I’d be hard pressed to pass it. We currently rank in the middle of all the countries of the world in academics. I read somewhere where the USA graduates 300,000 functionally illiterates from high school.

When you are in Detroit with a map of Atlanta, you’re lost. You need a new map. Similarly, we are “lost” in the muck of gooferment education, and we too need a new “map”. Fortunately we have one. Look at the pre-school education marketplace (i.e., montessori and it’s competitors) and look at the alternative IT education marketplace. There real people pay real money for results. The results are outstanding and the costs drop year over year. Like the computer industry where ruthless competition gives us better for less.

KJ>What part of the govt don’t you like?

All of it.

Gooferment makes us pay for services that we can’t use, don’t want, or if we have to use it costs far more than is reasonable.

KJ>We drive on govt built highways,

And, they are over-priced wrecks.

I can go through line by line and try to explain what a bad deal gooferment is for the productive class. But, I doubt I’d ever convince you.

KJ>fix things

I’m supporting Ron Paul for President. My rx is always the same: end ALL the wars — foreign and domestic, stop the dole — for people and companies, bring the troops home, cut the gooferment back to strict constitutional size, pardon all the non-violent people in prison, phase out “publik eddikation”, and return to honest money.

KJ>my plan

I detailed three basic points to end gooferment education. (1) Repeal mandatory attendance and create a multi-decade exit strategy; (2) reempower parents in educating their children; and (3) give the school infrastructure over to the principals, teachers, and janitors and let them compete.

KJ>Education is the MOST POWERFUL tool

Nope, liberty is. The freedom to make mistakes. The ability to follow one’s dreams and keep the fruits of one’s labor is the best that can be achieved in this life.

>

We have to agree to disagree agreeably. We have completely different paradigms, memes, and values.

But thanks for the conversations and blog fodder.

fjohn

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I appreciate your replies
but YOU ARE SO FAR OFF BASE
that I will cover your reply
point by point.

KJ>WHO would build the schools?
JR>The same people who build mcdonalds, wendys, … and everything else.

The Govt builds the schools
There is NO profit in Education.

Private Corps build McD, W….
and they do it for a profit.

KJ

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JR>Government schools is relatively modern development.

First –
YOU and NUtty Vin call them Govt schools
The SANE World calls them PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Schools – usually ONE ROOM
started immediately after the pilgrams landed.

KJ

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>What part of the govt don’t you like?

All of it.

Gooferment makes us pay for services that we can’t use,

Example Please.

don’t want,

Example Please.

KJ

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I have no children, yet I am forced at gunpoint to pay for gooferment skools. I am forced to do all sorts of things and pay for the insult. FDA, DEA, CIA, FBI, TSA, FEMA … etc. etc.

I have no desire for the gooferment “social security insurance” ponzi scheme that has an roi of between -1% and .5% depending upon who you believe while monetary inflation exceeds an average of 5%.

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One more try.

>There is NO profit in Education

Exactly. There is NO profit in education. (Ignoring for the moment pre-school like montesorri and goddard. And, ignore the post high-school non-college t”technical” education. That both do quite nicely.)

The lack of profits cause three problems:

(1) How does the gooferment skool know when its spending or charging correctly. In the absences of a competitively determined price, how do we know when we have put enough money into schools? When the politicians, bureaucrats, and other tell us we have? (This is typical of all socialist enterprises as identified brilliantly by vonMises in his book “socialism” in the 1920s.) In business, one seeks to deliver a service at a profit at a price the consumer is willing to pay. Schools have no “profit” to steer by.

(2) What happens when the gooferment skool fails? Nothing. The elite throw more money at the problem. The absence of “profit” means there is no market mechanism to tell the participants to stop.

(3) What happens to the consumers when there are NO profits. The Catholic, parochial, and private schools have gone broke when the gooferment provides a free good. So how do the socialists know when another school is needed? In a free market, if you’re running a school and making lots of profits, then competitors will be summoned magically to the opportunity and build schools to compete.

The problem is SOCIALISM. The problem is GOOFERMENT. The problem is we can’t see that the same solution, which feeds us, can educate the children.

I’m an injineer, not a writer or an economist or a social scientist, but it seems so obvious to me.

They say that insanity is “doing more of the same and expecting different results”. We are collectively INSANE if we think gooferment is going to solve our problems.

The Socialists — Mann and Dewey — imported the Prussian system of education to create a dumbed down society of factory workers and soldiers that could be led by the elite. (Google a guy named Ghatto who has written extensively about it.)

As I said agree to disagree agreeably.
fjohn

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JR>I have no children,

Maybe someday.

JR>yet I am forced at gunpoint

“gunpoint”?

You should tell Vin.
THAT would be a REAL News story.

JR>to pay for gooferment skools.

Who Paid for YOUR education?

JR>I am forced to do all sorts of things and pay for the insult. FDA, DEA, CIA, FBI, TSA, FEMA … etc. etc.

I agree with you.

There SHOULD be a USA National Lottery
so that THOSE THINGS PEOPLE FAVOR
COULD BE PAID FOR – BY THEM.

Education
ALL of the money going to Education

Iraq War

Political Campaigns
To be divided between Candidates
We MUST get the $$$$ OUT of politics.

I proposed this some time back.
With a NLottery
we would ALL Pay for THOSE THINGS WE BELIEVE IN
AND WANT.

>I have no desire for the gooferment “social security insurance” ponzi scheme that
>has an roi of between -1% and .5% depending upon who you believe while monetary
>inflation exceeds an average of 5%.

When you start getting the checks
just tear them up
and throw them away.

What stock would you invest in?

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At this point, I’m exhausted.

It was fun, but you can convince socialists that they have bad paradigms (i.e., how they perceive things), memes (a.k.a., ideas; methods; concepts), or values (i.e., what’s important).

But it makes great blog fodder.

Please feel free to engage KJ directly.

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http://www.muniwireless.com/article/articleview/6687/1/23

Ohio rings in New Year with a broadband initiative
• Posted by Carol Ellison at 7:50 AM Today

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Ohio Governor Ted Strickland officially launched Connect Ohio, a state and municipal public-private partnership aimed at mapping and filling gaps in broadband access across the state.

“The goal of Connect Ohio is to create customized support for local communities to meet their individual technological needs while helping expand broadband service to all residents and businesses,” Strickland said in announcing the program.

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“Public-Private” partnership = fascism.

“fill in the gaps” = uneconomic allocation of resources (i.e., there’s no broadband there because no one want to pay for it)

No, once again, gooferment at work. Undermining our liberties. I wonder if the taxpayers of Ohio wanted their money going down this rat hole?

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http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/11801941.html

Nov. 25, 2007
VIN SUPRYNOWICZ: Why we must destroy the government schools

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We recoil in horror from the practices of more “primitive” peoples who routinely subject their children to genital mutilation and other painful rituals, insisting the continuity of such practices is necessary to maintain their cultures. Yet how much more are each succeeding American generation’s views and values warped to accept the “normalcy” of collectivism, enforced mediocrity, and government dependence by 10 to 15 years of incarceration in these state Conformity Camps?

***AND***

We must do the unthinkable. We must destroy the tax-funded, government-run, compulsory public schools.

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When the Nazis or the Communists did it, Americans were horrified!

When our own socialists do it, that’s different.

We have a working example right here in this country today.

Technology education!

DeVry, Katherine Gibbs, Apollo Group (University of Phoenix), Education Management Corporation (Argosy University), ITT Technical Institutes to name a few.

You can learn about technology, get some certificate or other, and earn more that the average college graduate. Without a huge student loan and in far less than four or more years.

The costs have gone down, quality has gone up, and the topics have adapted in anticipation of the market’s needs.

I use a very objective standard. I drive by a DeVry on a Saturday and the parking lot is full into the late afternoon. Some people see the value.

Compare that to gooferment eddykation at their skools. Costs up, quality down, and the inmates … err, students do anything they can to escape.

Sigh!

How stupid are we to pay for this collective delusion?

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http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/12544531.html *

Dec. 16, 2007
VIN SUPRYNOWICZ: How many more will die in ‘gun-free’ zones before the media start asking why?

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If you frequent public buildings or work for an employer who bars you from carrying your otherwise legal self-defense weapon, consider advising your loved ones in writing that — in the event you should die under circumstances where you could have saved yourself and others with your handgun — you want the proprietor sued personally.

Guns save lives. Since banning guns costs lives, shouldn’t the individuals who ban self-defense — not the victimized taxpayers — pay the price?

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Seems only fair. The mall, that puts up a sign “no guns” and doesn’t protect its patrons, should be held financially liable. Remember the politicians, who push “victim disarmament”, like Mike Bloomberg on the NYC Subway, have an armed protective detail ensuring their safety.

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FROM AN EMAIL TO THE RON PAUL CAMPAIGN

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In the spirit of public service, I’d like to suggest that Doctor Paul begin to assemble a list of “dollar a year” men in various fields. I have always been impressed when people serve The People without expectation of glory or gold. To take apart washington in a sensible, meaningful, and timely manner, he’ll need all sorts of people with the appropriate credentials and philosophically aligned with his principles. As a donor, I’ve put my money where my mouth is. As an IT professional and an Internet savvy executive, I’d like to put my name on that list. I’m near retirement so I’d have no greater pleasure that ending my career by helping to clean up the mess. Even if it only paid a dollar a year! Put up a web page and let people organize it for you.

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I’m dead serious. It’s going to be a hard job cleaning that “stable”. What better way to do it than with “stable boys” who will do it for free!

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese418.html

The Ideal Self-Defense Weapon
by Charley Reese

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The Supreme Court is about to decide an issue based on the Second Amendment. God only knows how the court will rule, but the Bill of Rights is crystal-clear. It guarantees the people, not the states or the militias, the right to keep and bear arms. Let’s hope the Supreme Court justices understand plain English.

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Let’s hope the old tank driver is right and common sense returns to gooferment.

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http://www.shtfblog.com/2007/11/28/wolverines/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_I4WgBfETc

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Could this ever get old?

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I particularly liked the one scene, not in the clip, about the soldier prying the hogleg from the dead fist under the bumper sticker “cold dead hand”.

Yes, it can get old!

And mostly because it misstates the problem. It misdirects us. An outside threat parachuting into Main Street is way way too easy. A blind man could recognize it.

(The movie only has the mayor cooperating — very ironic!)

No, I think we have remember the great American philosopher Pogo and his admonition: “We have met the enemy and they is us!”

It’s the American welfare queens — in business, the middle class, and the rich — who are the enemy. And the Quisling politicians who delude us into thinking that the gooferment can satisfy all our wants and desires if we just give them the “steering wheel”.

No, gentle reader, the end will not come with parachutes dropping commies on Main Street.

The end has come already!

It is here because gooferment education has turned us all into socialists. It won’t be foreign troops on Main Street. We saw it in NOLA during Katrina. It was our own troops, going door to door, taking guns in violation of the Second Amendment. Leaving people defenseless. But, the gooferment was “in control”. None dare oppose them. Not even WalMart could help people. Navy docs, without the right paperwork, were NOT allowed to treat people. Firefighters from around the country had to go to “sensitivity training” and directed to only hand out flyers with an 800 number. Police how ever were dropped in to “control” the population. That was the face of tyranny!

Are you prepared to shoot fellow Americans — dressed in American uniforms under the “american” flag — who violate your rights?

That’s what happened in the Revolutionary War. That’s what happened in the War of Northern Aggression. That’s what will happen in the Third American Revolution.

See it’s easy, when they wear the UN blue or speak a foreign language or have the “wrong” flag.

Some have looked to the gooferment to protect us from the big bad world out there, and in doing that have let vampires in the door. They suck our life’s blood — our energy, our self-reliance, our attention — and leave us hollow shells of our spiritual forefathers. They can no more protect us then they can allow us to be free.

My rx is always the same: end ALL the wars — foreign and domestic — terror, poverty, drug, whatever — bring the troops home; stop the dole — for people and companies; cut the gooferment back to strict constitutional size; pardon all the non-violent people in prison — restitution, not punishment; phase out “publik eddikation”; and return to honest money.

Ron Paul as President is a good start! Let’s get tough again. This is supposed to be the home of the brave

“Wolverines!”

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http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/12/a_time_to_kill.html

December 01, 2007
A Time to Kill?
By Bob Weir

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A quick check of the local emergency rooms turned up our severely lacerated fugitive. He looked like a patchwork quilt by the time they finished stitching his numerous wounds. One would think he’d have taken up another line of work. On the contrary, it was less than a year later that he graduated from burglary to murder when he came across an elderly woman living alone only a few blocks away from his life and death struggle with the Doberman.

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An excellent case for the “MY neighborhood is MY castle” doctrine.

While we don’t have the death penalty for burglary, we certainly have to take some lessons away from this article.

* We know from England that disarming the ordinary folks leads to violent home invasions.

* We know from NOLA that removing the ordinary folks from the city leaves only criminals — uniforms not withstanding — in charge.

* We know from that story in Phoenix where the gun toting citizen advanced an protected a fallen officer that an armed citizen is an extension of the police.

* We know from Florida that concealed carry does NOT turn everything into the OK corral!

* We know from that Texas legislator’s Luby Cafe experience that disarmed is asking to be slaughtered.

* We know from VATECH that the good wishes (I’d harshly call it a pipe dream) of bureaucrats can get you killed.

So, we ourselves are all that stand between “Law & Order” and “Robbery, Rape, and Killing”.

So why do we let the Politican, Pundits, Komisars, Bureaucrats, and their Police Minions turn us into disarmed victims?

Remember Government = Genocide! It can’t happen without it.

And, “Gun Control” = “Victim Disarmament”!

The only ones who will “protect and serve” in our defense is us, and like minded neighbors.

Don’t be fooled!

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Judge Napolitano hits Congress.

Sigh!

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http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/WalterEWilliams/2007/11/21/the_greatest_generation

The Greatest Generation
By Walter E. Williams
Wednesday, November 21, 2007

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The “greatest generation” is a term sometimes used in reference to those Americans who were raised during the Great Depression, fought in World War II, worked in farms and factories and sacrificed for the war effort while maintaining the home front. Following the war, these Americans, many of whom were born between the turn of the century and 1930, went on to produce a level of wealth and prosperity heretofore unknown to mankind.

There’s no question that this generation made an important contribution. Let’s look at what else that generation contributed that might qualify them for the generation that laid the foundation for the greatest betrayal of our nation’s core founding principle: limited federal government exercising only constitutionally enumerated powers.

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Williams correctly removes the “greatest generation” label from the “Depression / WW2” people. They really screwed up by letting the gooferment, who created the Great Depression with the Smoot Hawley Tariff, “save” them by the removal of the gold standard buried among all the “recovery programs”. That single event allowed the gooferment to grow exponentially, run up a debt, and effectively tax every dollar holder by inflation. At least. the French Kings had to shave the French Franc to pay for their excesses.

Short of a Ron Paul presidential victory, I don’t see how we get our liberty back. The American Republic ended with the War of Northern Aggression. It’s been downhill ever since.

One wonders what will touch off the the Third American Revolution?

And, just how bad it will be?

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/bylund/bylund23.html

The Failure of State-Sponsored Schooling
by Per Bylund

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The common argument in the libertarian movement against public schools is that they fail to educate our children. Actually, according to this argument, public schooling is like any monopolized business: expensive, inefficient, and utterly unable to provide the services wanted and needed.

This is true, public schooling doesn’t work. But the proof of this is not the thousands of kids managing to go through nine or twelve years of schooling without even learning how to read and write. The proof of the failure of the whole schooling system, i.e. not only the public schools but also the private schools operating in a government controlled and licensed environment, is the small number of radicals managing to escape the brainwashing of centralized school plans.

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It’s hard to find a bigger example of gooferment failure. Have you talked to a child lately? It’s scary.

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/morales1.html

>If politicians were capable of actually caring for the welfare of the general population, then they would not pass such reckless restrictions.

You left out that the politicians, and the other vocal liberal, usually have an armed body guard, I laugh at the libel icon NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg who takes the subway. The pics and video carefully photograph around his armed security detail of four cops. Sigh. Of course, he’s for “victim disarmament”; he’s at no risk!

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http://burnedbygovt.com/blog/2007/nov/musings_nature_government_1

Burned By Government
Musings on the Nature of Government #1
Mon, 11/12/2007 – 20:16

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Compare that to reality, in which there was a government for Pol Pot (and the other mass-murderers I mentioned above) the grab control of, and use to lend an aura of legitimacy to their killing.

Guns don’t kill people–Governments do.

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Gooferment is truly the meme that can kill us. And, it’s an illusion. A gang wrapped in an aura of legitimacy that pretends we are important. The Dead Old White Guys had that pegged. When you think about it, that gang puts “to protect and serve” on their “police” cars. But just who are they “protect and serve”-ing? Sure not us. As a matter of fact, another of their illusions, the gooferment courts have held there is no such duty. In “Warren v. District of Columbia”, the court stated it is a “fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen.”

OK, so now, are you at least unbrainwashed about the “government” meme?

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance126.html

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Why? Why do most Americans hold veterans and current members of the U.S. military in such high esteem? Why is there such a military mindset in the United States?

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Dear Mr. Vance:

I don’t know about “most Americans”; which I would quibble includes Canada and Mexico. Assuming that by “Americans”, you mean to use the label to create a collective of all those under the thumb of the gang in WashDC. I still don’t “know”.

But perhaps it is because the country “asked” and these boys and girls stepped up.

Now maybe “asked” is too nice a word; “drafted”, seduced, fooled, propagandized might be better. And, maybe we can question if they were out of their minds to do it. Or, we can see now with the clarity of 20/20 hindsight that the American people have been being duped by their politicians for eons.

But, I honor vets, not because I am one, but as Heinlein put it, “The most noble fate a man can endure is to place his own mortal body between his loved home and the war’s desolation.”!

We can argue about rightness or wrongness; we can search for wisdom or whizdumb; we can all vie for the title of who’s “the bigger fool”; we can examine in excruciating and exhaustive detail about if they were brainwashed, deluded, or truly heroic.

But, at the end of the day, the fact is they “stepped up” and put themselves in Harm’s Way on the belief that they were protecting the liberties of their fellow citizens.

That’s Heinlein’s “civic virtue”.

And, I think that answers your question.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Day

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Veterans Day is an American holiday honoring military veterans. Both a federal holiday and a state holiday in all states, it is celebrated on the same day as Armistice Day or Remembrance Day in other parts of the world, falling on November 11, the anniversary of the signing of the Armistice that ended World War I. (Major hostilities of World War I were formally ended at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918 with the German signing of the Armistice.)

Veterans Day is largely intended to thank veterans for their service, to acknowledge that their contributions to United States national security are appreciated, and to underscore the fact that all those who served – not only those who died – have sacrificed and done their duty.

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Where ever one stands on the political spectrum, one has to stand awe of the men and women who “took one for the team”. We have a duty to ensure that not one of them died in vain. Sadly, I’m not so sure we can say that today.

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RISKS-LIST: Risks-Forum Digest Weds 31 October 2007 Volume 24 : Issue 88
ACM FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS (comp.risks)
Peter G. Neumann, moderator, chmn ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy
This issue is archived at <http://www.risks.org> as <http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/24.88.html>

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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:54:11 +0100
From: Martyn Thomas
Subject: A computer-related fatality

A Texas judge, Sharon Keller, refused to keep her court open for 20 minutes to receive an appeal from the lawyers representing Michael Richard. He was executed later the same night.

His lawyers had suffered a computer breakdown and said they were unable to file the appeal within regular working hours. They had begged Judge Keller for more time and she refused.

Her decision might have gone unnoticed had the supreme court not announced, on September 25, that it was reviewing a challenge to the legality of lethal injection.

The announcement set off a flurry of appeals from death-row inmates and it is believed Richard’s execution most likely would have been halted, to await the supreme court decision, had he been granted a hearing. Two days after Richard was executed, the supreme court blocked a lethal injection in Texas. Judges in Alabama and Kentucky have also stayed executions, bringing in an unofficial moratorium on the death penalty.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2199596,00.html

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This is disgusting! That judge should be impeached.

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/young-andrew/young-andrew12.html

Wolves and Sheep
by Andrew Young

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Third, millions of innocent Americans are subjected to unconstitutional searches and seizures of their person and property every single day. This happens, of course, at the airports, where TSA thugs force them to take off their shoes, belts, and all metallic objects before walking through a metal detector. As Napolitano points out, these bozos are adept at harassing innocent Americans and spotting harmless objects such as water bottles, deodorant cans, and toothpaste tubes. However, when it comes to spotting things that might actually be dangerous, such as, say, bombs and guns, they have proven remarkably incompetent. Napolitano notes that Department of Homeland Security employees and even a college student were able to smuggle knives, guns, a bomb, and other dangerous objects through TSA checkpoints. Since the publication of Napolitano’s book, the TSA’s own studies have proven it incompetent, finding that TSA screeners missed up to 75% of fake bombs.

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If this wasn’t so serious, it would be humorous.

Like the Keystone Kops on steroids.

Personally, I won’t travel by air unless my arm is twisted.

One has to strike back any way one can.

Imagine if they gave a holiday season and NO ONE flew home!

“Sorry <insert favorite family member’s name>, I am not coming home for <Christmas, Thanksgiving, Winter Solstice> because of the Gooferment’s TSA makes it humiliating to fly.”

That would be stunning.

Think the sheeple will do it?

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http://www.keenefreepress.com/mambo//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=642&Itemid=36

Opting Out Print
Monday, 22 October 2007
By Kat Kanning

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People opt in implicitly by voting or taking government benefits.

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CONTRASTING

http://www.lewrockwell.com/mcelroy/mcelroy107.html

Lysander Spooner
by Wendy McElroy

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Spooner now explains why voting cannot collectively bind “the people” or even a particular individual to the Constitution. A rough listing of the points in his argument is as follows:

* The act of voting can bind only those who vote.
* Most people do not vote in any given election; many people never vote. Therefore, they have not consented.
* To be binding, a vote must be “perfectly voluntary” yet a “very large number” vote in self-defense.
* Taxation is compulsory and many vote only to prevent their money from being used against them.
* Votes for unsuccessful candidates cannot be binding.
* A secret vote provides no legal evidence by which to bind any particular voter to the Constitution.

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SO … imho … “voting” doesn’t opt me in!

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***You Are a “Don’t Tread On Me” Libertarian***

You distrust the government, are fiercely independent, and don’t belong in either party.
Religion and politics should never mix, in your opinion… and you feel oppressed by both.
You don’t want the government to cramp your self made style. Or anyone else’s for that matter.
You’re proud to say that you’re pro-choice on absolutely everything!

What’s Your Political Persuasion?
http://www.blogthings.com/whatsyourpoliticalpersuasionquiz/

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:-)

You’re surprised?

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FROM A FRIEND’S (DOTCOMERADEN’S) FACEBOOK

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Now assuming you are a bad guy, would you rather run up against this sovereign individual or that silly girl making vending machine costumes?

Who’s having fun?

Who’s in control of their own destiny?

Who’s intentions will be mistaken?

Note the Cooper’s stance. Not like in the movies.

She’s the progeny of the American Pioneer women!

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http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/10/21/news/japan.php

In Japan, refreshing ideas for the fearful
By Martin Fackler
Published: October 21, 2007

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TOKYO: On a narrow Tokyo street, near a beef bowl restaurant and a pachinko parlor, Aya Tsukioka demonstrated new clothing designs that she hoped would ease Japan’s growing fears of crime.

With a deft motion, Tsukioka, a 29-year-old fashion designer, lifted a flap on the front of her skirt to reveal a large sheet of cloth printed in bright red with a soft drink logo partly visible. By holding the sheet fully open and stepping to the side of the road, she showed how a woman walking alone could elude pursuers – by disguising herself as a vending machine.

The wearer hides behind the sheet, which is printed with a life-size photo of a vending machine. Tsukioka’s clothing is still in the developmental stage, but she has already created several versions, including one that unfolds from a kimono, and a deluxe model with four sides for more complete camouflaging.

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Neat idea.

Lousy solution.

Sam Colt gave women equality decades ago. The smallest frailest woman is more than a match for the biggest brutish predator. The hand gun.

Yup, easy to conceal, easy to operate, easy to be part of that “well regulated” militia the Constitution talks about.

(For the uneducated, by “well regulated”, the dead old white guys meant being able to hit what you aim at.)

So, instead of disguising yourself as Coke machine and hope the thug is NOT thirsty, our threaten female puts her back to the wall, gets into a Cooper stance, puts her finger on the trigger, and announces tot he world in her best imitation of Clint Eastwood “Well punk are you feeling lucky?”.

I don’t know about you but I would be back peddling as fast as I can and wondering where am I going to find clean shorts.

See, our founding fathers understood that the world is a dangerous place. And, we were responsible for our own protection. And, we could do it quite well.

Crime is a direct result of the gooferment’s war on drugs. No war on drugs would mean low cost drugs that meant addict would not have to steal to support a habit. Also, no turf wars.

So, the amount of crime related violence would be reduced.

Allowing those that want to, to pack heat, would take care of the residual. Sprinkle the population with a few “sheepdogs” and the rest of the sheep can go about their business undisturbed.

So dress like a vending machine or stand up like a free person?

“I know not course others will take, but for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

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http://www.catb.org/~esr/guns/sheep.html

The Parable of the Sheep

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The bold sheep knew that the fangs and claws they possessed had not changed them. They still grazed like other sheep, and raised their lambs in the spring, and greeted their friend the dog as he walked among them. But they could not quell the terror of the flock, which rose in them like some ancient dark smoky spirit and could not be damped by reason, nor dispelled by the light of day.

So they resolved to retain their weapons, but to conceal them from the flock; to endure their fear and loathing, and even to protect their brethren if the need arose, until the day the flock learned to understand that as long as there were wolves in the night, sheep would need teeth to repel them.

They would still be sheep, but they would not be food!

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r u a sheeple or a sheepdog?

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http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/10/17/big_brother_at_school/?rss_id=Boston+Globe+–+Jeff+Jacoby+columns

Big Brother at school
By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | October 17, 2007

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Thus in a little over 100 years, the Democratic Party – and much of the Republican Party – has been transformed from a champion of “parental rights and rights of conscience in the education of children” to a party whose leaders believe that parents “don’t get to impose” their views and values on what their kids are taught in school. Do American parents see anything wrong with that? Apparently not: The majority of them dutifully enroll their children in government-operated schools, where the only views and values permitted are the ones prescribed by the state.

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Have to separate the gooferment from education. It’s a freedom of religion issue.

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