GUNS: Compare the Buffalo police to the Texas response

Friday, June 10, 2022

https://palexander.substack.com/p/buffalo-police-tops-grocery-mass?s=r

Buffalo police (TOPS grocery mass shooting) show you what brave top class police are, calmed their fears, even allowed shooter their rights, but he is evil & craven & must pay; Texas (Uvalde) schoolshowed us what NOT brave police are, they did not overcome their fears, 19 stood in the hallway, should have disregarded command in this situation, hearing shots inside, 2 different sets of policing

*** begin quote ***

The Buffalo cops must be praised and distinguished for they showed us in spades what a top notch police is and can do, how they can handle a catastrophic situation

*** end quote ***

If it was in my power and I was President, I’d invite the Buffalo police to the White House and give them a medal.

But what do I know.

—30—


GUNS: Eliminate “gun free zones” as a small step towards safety?

Saturday, June 4, 2022

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/05/28/private-gun-carriers-self-defense-against-public-shooters/

Guns
Private Gun Carriers’ Self-Defense Against Public Shooters
The Charleston (West Virginia) incident from a few days ago, the FBI 2021 statistics, and more.
Eugene Volokh | 5.28.2022 5:32 PM

*** begin quote ***

Finally, always keep in mind that active shooter situations should not be the main focus in the gun debate, whether for gun control or gun decontrol: They on average account for less than 1% of the U.S. homicide rate and are unusually hard to stop through gun control laws (since the killer is bent on committing a publicly visible murder and is thus unlikely to be much deterred by gun control law, or by the prospect of encountering an armed bystander). But people talk about them a lot, so I thought I’d offer a perspective on them for those who are interested.

*** end quote ***

I read this very calm and seemed to be neutral After Action review of the particular Charleston West Virginia incident.

The only quibble I have is, and I agree, with to paraphrase “criminals are undeterred by laws and probably an armed bystander”.  What about “gun free zones” being an attractive nuisnece.  We know from Columbine that the criminal in that case traveled further to a movie house that was “gun free”.  This assuring that even the slight risk of a “good guy (or gal) with gun” might interfere.  

So perhaps eliminating all “gun free zones” and allowing unlimited concealed carry by non-felons, we might make their rage a little more “inconvenient”.

—30—

 


GUNS: Good police work reacting to a potential copy cat

Sunday, May 29, 2022

https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/teen-threatens-mass-shooting-at-long-island-high-school-cops/

Teen arrested for ‘threatening’ mass shooting at NY high school a day after Uvalde massacre
By Larry Celona and
Mark Lungariello
May 27, 2022 7:18pm Updated
Bellport High School in Long Island.

*** begin quote ***

A 16-year-old was charged with aggravated harassment after threatening a shooting at Bellport High School on Instagram. 

A 16-year-old boy threatened a mass shooting at a Long Island high school on social media — just one day after the Uvalde, Texas school massacre, prosecutors said.

The teen was arrested for making a terroristic threat after he made a Wednesday Instagram post on his “Bellport Scholars” page that warned there could be a shooting at Bellport High School the next day, according to the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office.

Cops didn’t find any guns in the home of the boy, whose identity was withheld by prosecutors because of his age.

*** end quote ***

As a gun owning pro-life pro-choice little L libertarian I see nothing wrong with this quick reaction.  If anything, maybe a night in jail would provide an object lesson.

Now the question is follow up and follow thru. 

  • Follow up with a complete medical and psych eval.  (I’d include a colonoscopy just so it gets the point across!)
  • Follow thru with a thorough examination of the individual’s environment — what he has access too.

I’d like to see the concept of a “extreme protective order” that puts the target under a microscope and their — should say his — environment.

That’s without taking everyone else’s guns away.

Thinking back to Hill Street Blues’ roll call I’d add “be alert if something is reported as kinky” and then “Be Safe Out There”.

—30—


GUNS: Our guns prevent your genocide

Friday, May 27, 2022

https://www.globalresearch.ca/overkill-deadly-illogical-gun-rights/5781444

Overkill: The Deadly Illogical of Gun Rights
By Greg Guma
Global Research, May 26, 2022
Region: USA
Theme: Law and Justice

*** begin quote ***

When a disturbed teenager or adult commits mass murder it has nothing to do with liberty. Yet, since the weapon is usually a gun, many people in the US essentially respond that the freedom to be armed is more important that the right to be safe. In fact, millions claim that being armed is the only way to be safe. Like most arguments against gun control, it’s cruel and illogical.

For decades now, leaders of gun rights groups have made the same case. They claim, for example, that the only thing separating Americans from people living in dictatorships is their unrestricted access to weapons. If the government has all the guns, they say, attacks against defenseless citizens will become as common in the US as they are in oppressed countries. This is one of the reasons why gun owners oppose the banning of so-called assault rifles.

Does this sound familiar? It certainly should. The same argument is still being made today by those who say nothing can be done to stop mass shootings like the recent ones in Texas and upstate New York. They also warn that only way to prevent a police state here, which many people claim is on the verge of happening, is to allow the wide and unregulated distribution of all sorts of weapons.

This idea, which assumes that any regulation is the first step toward confiscation, represents a paranoid and individualist mentality that for decades has dominated debate about gun violence in the US. We are free, the argument goes, only as long as we can defend ourselves with guns, not only against criminals but also against the law and the State.

*** and ***

The arguments against regulation tend to fall into three categories: 1) the right to bear arms is constitutionally protected, 2) gun control won’t reduce violence in society, and 3) gun laws are a serious threat to freedom. But do these assertions hold up to scrutiny?

The roots of traditional US ideas about the relationship between weapons and society actually go back centuries to the Florentine political philosopher Niccolo Machiavelli, who noted that military service should be the responsibility of every citizen, but soldiering the professional of none. Basing his ideas on the Roman suspicion of professional soldiers, he concluded that military force should only be used to assure the common good.

This idea of citizens bearing arms in defense of the State, to avoid the potential tyranny of a standing army, was translated by the authors of the Bill of Rights into the Second Amendments and helps to explain its unusual wording:

“A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Many libertarians have interpreted this sentence to mean that individuals are guaranteed the right to possess firearms for their personal defense or for any other use they choose. What this fails to acknowledge is the meaning of citizenship as it was understood two and a half centuries ago. In the 18th century, citizenship directly involved militia service for men, which was part of the commitment to the greater public good. An armed citizenry did not mean an armed population. In fact, even then it was clearly understood that access to weapons was a communal rather than an individual right.

*** and ***

The bottom line is this: Effective regulation, combined with a comprehensive national database and a serious training program for gun users, would establish over time that less access to guns leads to less violent crime. This has been the case in Europe and some US states. Success would also help shatter the myth that government is the problem, and that people are better off armed to the teeth and on their own.

The debate over guns is not about restricting rights. That’s the cover story, an assumption promoted by the gun lobby to shape public perceptions. It’s not even about “control.” The goal is security, freedom from the fear and anxiety sweeping across this over-armed society.

A well-regulated militia is a altruistic idea, certainly preferable to the military-industrial complex. But almost 400 million guns in private hands is — pardon the expression — overkill.

*** end quote ***

In a long eloquent screed, the author makes an argument for “effective regulation” and that the Dead Old White Guys didn’t meant everyone.  

I almost spit out my coffee at “effective regulation”.  Would the author please point out ANY example of such “effective regulation” ANYWHERE in the world.  He cite cars as an example.  Has he dealt with the DMV lately?  And, even this week before the tragic shooting in Texas the ATF is accused of creating a permanent online gun registry in direct violation of Federal law.  So much for that argument.

Funny how if they meant militia, they didn’t say it.  It’s generally conceded that “well regulated” in their generation meant “hit what you aim at” not a bunch of bureaucrats making diktats.  If the Federal Gooferment would return control of the Army to the State governors, disband all the TLAs (three letter agencies), and disarm all the bureaucrats like at the Department of Agriculture, then maybe we can get back to the Dead Old White Guys’ intents. Then maybe we don’t need about ⅓ of “We, The Sheeple” armed like citizen soldiers.

I notice that the author doesn’t point out how Israel dealt with classroom shootings.

Further I notice that the author doesn’t address how mass shootings seem to take place in “gun free zones” or as I like to call then “target rich environments” AKA shooting galleries.

Stiff further I notice that the author doesn’t address violent crime in all major cities where “gun control” id the diktat.

Finally I notice that the author doesn’t address how genocides seem to happen when the citizenry is disarmed.  (And yes it does happen here — Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Native Americans, the Bonus Brigade, etc etc)

As a gun owning pro-life pro-choice little L libertarian, there are better scholars on these issues than me (i.e., John Lott; Tom Woods; Scott Horton; and litany of libertarian writers like Heinlein) who can do a better job of responding.

And with “gun control” fixated Democrats in charge of all branches of the Federal Gooferment why haven’t they advanced the agenda?  Because they know it’s a loser.  Nothing will will bring 100 million voters to the polls quicker than that infringement of the Second Amendment.

P.S., Don’t even bring up the concept of “social contract” because it’s a meaningless phrase.  See Lysander Spooner.

In summation, we live in the Fascist State controlled by an oligarchy of the rich who regard us with contempt.  Only the knowledge of an armed citizenry prevents them from loading the trains with “deplorable” and sending us to camps.

If that be paranoid, then I’l misquote a 60’s meme “Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get me!”

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . .” — Alexander Solzhenitsyn

So, whomever is sent to collect the guns, should be aware that unlike Germany in the 1920’s, gun owners in the USA will not go quietly.

—30—

BTW your link to comment is broken.  I assume it’s an accident; not deliberate.

# – # – # – # – #

 

 

 

 

 


GUNS: “Disarm the population” is NEVER a good idea for the poor slob who is sent to it!

Tuesday, April 5, 2022

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/02/al-gop-senate-hopeful-mike-durant-in-2011-disarming-the-population-would-be-a-pretty-good-step-toward-law-and-order-in-u-s-cities/

AL GOP Senate Hopeful Mike Durant in 2011: Disarming the Population ‘Would Be a Pretty Good Step Toward Law and Order’ in U.S. Cities
JEFF POOR
2 Apr 2022

*** begin quote ***

U.S. Army veteran Mike Durant, the current frontrunner in Alabama’s U.S. Senate Republican primary race, once suggested applying military philosophy to restore “law and order” in some U.S. cities by disarming the population.

In 2011, Durant discussed the violence initiated by United Nations forces going door to door to seize firearms in a speech before the U.S. Army War College.

As an aside, he speculated about how doing that in “some of our U.S. cities” could be a means to achieving “law and order.”

“[F]rom a military perspective, the first thing that needs to be done is disarm the population,” he said. “Let’s face it, if we could do that in some of our U.S. cities, that would be a pretty good step toward law and order. But you ever ask yourself, why don’t we do it here? Because it’s hard. It can result in rioting and widespread rebellion and you know, making the situation worse than it already is. But for some reason, we sort of hand-wave all that kind of stuff and go head and hand all those missions down to our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines. And that’s what happens here.”

*** end quote ***

I don’t this it’s fair to paint him as having recommending this.  He said: “ask yourself why”.

For all the gun grabbers, who want to disarm “We, The People”, I invite them to go into the big cities and have at it. 

No, they want others to their dirty work for them.  And a lot of good people will get killed in another “fool’s errand”.

Let’s bring all the girls, boys, women, and men home now! We have so many politicians and bureaucrats to send in their place if it’s really needed!

—30—


GUNS: A “community caretaking function” is no reason for a search

Thursday, December 23, 2021

The Supreme Court today gave us a fantastic decision in a case where Gun Owners of America and its foundation (GOF) were involved! 

*** begin quote ***

In Caniglia v. Strom, the Supreme Court today struck down an attempt by Rhode Island police to conduct warrantless searches for guns in a home using the so-called “community caretaking function.”

This made-up doctrine, which is a purported exception to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirement, permits police to engage in warrantless searches and seizures when they are carrying out any of their duties other than criminal law enforcement. For example, police may enter homes to help persons in need of emergency assistance, or may search a vehicle to recover the gun of an off-duty officer they had just arrested.

Erich Pratt, Senior Vice President of Gun Owners of America (GOA) and Gun Owners Foundation (GOF), stated:  

“The Supreme Court today smacked down the hopes of gun grabbers across the nation. The Michael Bloombergs of the world would have loved to see the Supreme Court grant police the authority to confiscate firearms without a warrant. But the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the Fourth Amendment protections in the Bill of Rights protect gun owners from such invasions into their homes.”
According to GOA’s brief, after a husband and wife had an argument, the police entered their home without a warrant to search and seize the husband’s firearms based on the supposed “community caretaking” exception to the Fourth Amendment. The Rhode Island district court and the First Circuit plucked two words from a court-created doctrine in an effort to empower police to grab guns in homes whenever it seems to be a good idea.

Writing for a unanimous Court in a short opinion, Justice Thomas denied the application of the doctrine to justify the search, distinguishing between a rule that applied to an impounded car and “the right of a man to retreat into his own home and there be free from unreasonable governmental intrusion.”

Gun Owners of America and its foundation are continually bringing lawsuits across the country to defend firearm rights. GOA is unwavering in its defense of gun rights and remains the only “no compromise” gun lobby.

So GOA wishes to express its thanks to those members who assisted in this case

*** end quote ***


GUNS: An interesting analysis of Baldwin’s accident

Monday, December 20, 2021

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/12/04/nolte-six-thoughts-about-alec-baldwins-claim-he-didnt-pull-the-trigger/

Nolte: Six Thoughts About Alec Baldwin’s Claim He Didn’t Pull the Trigger
JOHN NOLTE 4 Dec 2021 

*** begin quote ***

Before Alec Baldwin’s Thursday night interview with George Stephanopoulos (D-ABC), I expressed my skepticism at the actor’s claim he did not pull the trigger on the gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza.

Now that I’ve seen the full interview, I have even more questions.

*** end quote ***

An interesting analysis of the accident.

I’m not sure we are ever going to know for sure what happened.

So sad.

—30—


GUNS: The final defense against tyranny

Saturday, December 18, 2021

https://onlygunsandmoney.com/2021/12/15/promoting-marksmanship.html

Promoting Marksmanship
December 15, 2021  by John Richardson

*** begin quote ***

The 1941 Swedish propaganda poster below is promoting marksmanship. The wording translates as “shooting skills increase the defense force.” Both the civilian and the soldier are firing what appears to be a Model 96 Swedish Mauser.

Shooting skills

*** end quote ***

Perhaps one reason for “our” “success” in WW1 and WW2 was the marksmanship of the average civilian.

Today, there would be no such advantage.

Today’s gang bangers are lucky they don’t shoot themselves.  Everything they know about guns comes from TV and movies.

One can only hope that “We, The Sheeple” are teaching their children “traditional values”.

“Let us hope our weapons are never needed – but do not forget what the common people of this nation knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny.” – Edward Abbey

—30—

 


GUNS: Murphy can’t be taken seriously about “gun safety” … …

Wednesday, December 8, 2021

https://www.tapinto.net/towns/south-brunswick/sections/government/articles/gov-murphy-announces-support-for-gun-safety-bill-package-in-legislature-7

Gov. Murphy Announces Support for Gun Safety Bill Package in Legislature
By JOHN MOONEY
Published December 7, 2021 at 6:11 AM

*** begin quote ***

TRENTON, NJ – As part of his ongoing commitment to meaningfully address the nation’s gun violence crisis, Gov. Phil Murphy on Thursday urged legislators to take action in the coming weeks and pass a comprehensive gun safety legislative package that he initially proposed in April.

*** end quote ***

The Pepuls Republik of Nu Jerzee already has the most restrictive gun laws in the nation. And, it’s done squat to reduct the toll.

Here’s an idea: ENFORCE THE FELON IN POSSESSION LAWS!

Argh!

Instead of encumbering the hones gun owners, go after the felons who should be in jail.

Argh!

—30—


GUNS: Retired Chicago Firefighter 1, armed robber 0 — permanently

Saturday, November 13, 2021

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2021/11/08/retired-chicago-firefighter-fatally-shoots-would-be-armed-robber-n51826

Retired Chicago Firefighter Fatally Shoots Would-Be Armed Robber
By Cam Edwards | Nov 08, 2021 9:30 AM ET

*** begin quote ***

According to the Chicago Tribune, a 77-year old retired Chicago Fire Department captain was working in an open garage on Saturday afternoon when a vehicle pulled up on the alleyway fronting the garage.

An assailant got out of the vehicle, pulled out a gun and demanded the man’s property.

The 77-year-old took out his own gun and shot at the would-be robber, hitting him in the head and chest, police said. The robber, whose identity was not released, died at the scene, police said.

The 77-year-old man was not injured.

Both guns were found at the scene, police said. The 77-year-old man, who retired from the department about 15 years ago, has a valid firearm owners identification card and conceal carry license.

The man didn’t need a concealed carry license to possess a firearm in his garage, and it would have been nice for the Tribune to point that fact out to its readers, but at least we know the would-be victim was a legal gun owner. And the fact that the Tribune didn’t mention anything about the would-be robber having a FOID card or a concealed carry license in his possession is an indication that, just like the vast majority of Chicago’s violent crimes, this latest attack was carried out by someone who’s not legally possessing their gun.

As for the fact that the retired firefighter was attacked in broad daylight in his garage, the truth is that carjackers and armed robbers aren’t waiting for the sun to go down before they hit the streets. The website CWB Chicago says police are investigating several carjacking crews that have no qualms about committing their crimes while the sun is still shining.

*** end quote ***

I’m a pro-life little L libertarian.  But the right of self-defense is so basic.  Seems like Chicago is closer to the Law of the Jungle than it should be.  But I’m glad that there’s one criminal less to plague the good guys.

Seems like Chicago should be encouraging concealed carry to even the sides between the citizens and criminals.

—30—