RANT: Wheel of Misfortune; never speak to the police


Sunday, July 14, 2013
George Zimmerman Acquittal Reflections and Lessons Learned

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Sanford, FL–This sad case began with a tragedy. Travon Martin was a troubled lad who made terrible choices. The data recovered from his cell phone and was later unlawfully hidden from George Zmmerman’s defense lawyers by prosecutors showed that Martin was heavily involved with illegal guns, drugs and fighting.

Judge Debra Nelson later ruled that cell phone evidence inadmissible and that was not at all unusual in our courts. It may seem unfair to some but that’s what they normally do.

As for Martin he apparently had personal issues with what he called, “crappy assed crackers” and was the one actually profiling Zimmerman clearly by race. To me it’s logical and believable that Martin caused his own death by assaulting Zimmerman. However we all must recognize that there are no witnesses or video to establish this fact with absolute 100% certainty.

We must not never lose sight of is the fact that we don’t require accused people to prove their innocence and that burden is the government’s to prove that self-defense was not somehow necessary. In the Zimmerman case both the government and media led us astray in that regard.

What is certain are the injuries to Zimmerman obviously inflicted by the stronger and faster, Travon Martin. They’re not serious injuries but they clearly substantiate an attack by an aggressor. The police carefully investigated the case and there was simply no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman.

Zimmerman could have avoided his horrible and expensive ride on the Wheel of Misfortune by simply asking for a lawyer rather than cooperating and answering every question put to him by the cops.
The cops were fair and also the first set of prosecutors however; a special prosecutor shanghaied the case. In the end the only evidence they had was Zimmerman’s admission that he shot Martin. His verbal claim to police of self-defense became a confession they used to file the case!

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Continued advice is: “Invoke your Fifth Amendment right and then shut up”.


The average citizen has no friends, but his lawyer.

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3 Responses to RANT: Wheel of Misfortune; never speak to the police

  1. reinkefj says:

    Sorry, but the kops are not your “friends”. And, anything you say can and will be held against you. I suggest that the correct course is to speak ONLY to your lawyer and let that be your guide. Civilization will not go down the drain! But you might avoid what happened to Zimmerman. He should have invoked his Fifth Amendment right. The prosecutor used his admission to indict him. If he’d said nothing, a Grand Jury would have to hear the prosecution’s case. Argh! Say “am I being detained”, and “I want my lawyer”!

  2. frenchync says:

    I agree with Michael, we should be as helpful as possible.

  3. The unfortunate thing though is that if everyone followed that rule, police expenses for dealing with the same amount of crime would probably double or triple. Right now, they can usually get a pretty good idea of what’s gone on in a crime by quizzing people peripherally involved who want to be helpful because they know that they themselves are innocent. BUT… if they all kept their mouths shut then the police would have to do a LOT more work to get the same amount of information.

    E.G. There was what looked like an old drug overdose death in the abandoned house next door to me about five years ago. I tried to be as helpful as possible in telling police what I knew about the property and what I had or had not observed during the uncertain period a year or two earlier that the death had probably taken place.

    The “Don’t Talk To The Cops” lawyers would have told me to say nothing, since it was always possible that the police could suspect a next-door-neighbor of dumping a body in an abandoned building, or a long haired hippie of being involved in drugs, and if I had said something in passing in my initial conversations that I happened to contradict later on purely by mischance of memory or somesuch, it would have been quite possible that I could have ended up as some sort of suspect. On the other hand, if I *had* refused to talk to them, I probably would have automatically, and in my way of thinking, quite justifiably been a suspect.

    As a citizen in a democratic republic I should have a responsibility for seeing that its laws are upheld, at least to the extent that they serve to protect fellow citizens. So if I *might* have some possible information that could help in solving a crime of violence, information I might not even be aware I have because it might seem so totally unimportant, I would feel a duty to try to help out and trust that the police are actually more interested in solving the crime than in attacking me on the basis of things I might say.

    – MJM

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