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Thursday, April 09, 2009
Supermajority a super bad idea
by Hank Kalet
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Taxes are not popular, especially now. Christie appears willing to pander to this disgust without taking into account the consequences that such a proposal would have.
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reinkefj said…
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Yeah, geee, we can’t possibly STARVE the CRIMINALS in TRENTON and the bureaucrats and toadies from not having an endless supply of OUR stolen money to waste hither and yon.
They should be starved!
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THEN FROM THE WOODWORK COMES “ANONYMOUS”
Anonymous Anonymous said…
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Yeah sure, we don’t need any stinking roads, safe bridges, police, fire fighters, a judicial system, schools and screw medicaid. Let us all march into the wonderful libertarian paradise in which we just step blithely and gingerly over the bodies and rotting corpses in the streets. EMTs will require payment up front, otherwise, you just lay in the gutter until the vultures come. That’s the libertarian way. If your drinking water is polluted, TOUGH LUCK! In libertarian land it will be up to you alone to get rid of your own sewerage. Starve the beast so billionaires can get richer.
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I’VE HAD ENOUGH OF HIS SNIPING
reinkefj said…
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You continue to misstate the Libertarian idea and glorify the big Gooferment solution. Sigh! Let’s try again.
>Yeah sure, we don’t need any stinking roads, safe bridges
Well we have stinking roads and bridges now. The Gooferment has raided the pennies from the gas tax to fund other wasteful programs so that there is no money for repair and maintenance. Are you arguing that what we have works so well, that we shouldn’t even consider something else? Think about the roads in Disneyland or Great Adventure. Are they in need of repair? As bloated as the Turnpike bureaucracy is, where there is a direct link between expense and the road, at least the road is in decent shape. So, do you think that if WalMart ran the road outside its store, would it be “beautiful” and smooth. I bet it would. So why do we allow the gang calling themselves North Brunswick, Middlesex County, and the State of New Jersey to rob us blind and provide substandard roads at an obscene price? Perhaps, stupidity. The unwillingness to think outside the box and consider a different way of organizing and paying for the road. Ever seen the private roads of a an adult retirement community? How do they do that without a gun toting force wielding gooferment? I bet if we had WalMart and UPS design and maintain highways, they’d be cheaper and better. I wouldn’t mind riding on WalMart #1 or UPS #27. But, I guess you’re in shock. Heck, I’d even let them put ads on the pavement. (The politicians do it. Ever see the signs thanking them for a road or construction or such! What chutzpah! They steal our money and put up a sign thanking themselves. Where’s the sign thanking the taxpayer!)
>police
Yeah, Brinks home security is completely unnecessary because your gooferment police do such a wonderful job. Next you’ll be telling us that the “police are our friends” and “never exceed their authority”! We live in a “soft” police state now where they act alternatively between revenue generation agents, thugs, and criminals. Ever heard of “quotas”? Ever heard of “civil rights violations”? Ever heard of “drug warriors” helping themselves to the “drug raid results”? Some “friends”. With “friends” like that I don’t need enemies.
>fire fighters
Most firefighting in the US was and to some extent still is volunteer. Insurance companies and local organizations couldn’t be trusted to come up with a model that didn’t include goofement.
>a judicial system
Yeah, we cant have Judy Judy and the slew of other private arbitration providers handing out justice. Your gooferment justice system does so well. It’s half revenue production and half abuse. Think we fight the “drug war” for any other reason than keep the rationale for gooferment alive, the coffers full, and the prisons operating for the benefit of the politicians, bureaucrats, and their toadies? And even heard of “Project Innocence”? If a death row inmate survives long enough, these law students work on their case. 120 death row inmates freed due to DNA. But in YOUR court system, innocence isn’t the ultimate appeal. DNA testing is so much more expensive than killing these wretches. Ever hear of gooferment killing innocent people? That’s your justice system. Please, mine would be much more humane and cooperative. Back to the drug war, you do realize that more than half the prison population is non-violent drug offenders. What’s the % of minorities? But, your gooferment isn’t racist or opress the poor! Who cares what chemical people put in their bodies as longs as (1) they don’t hurt someone else; and (2) we don’t have to subsidize it!
>schools
Surely this is the most powerful argument for the Gooferment. By any measure, gooferment schools are merely training grounds for its prisons. “The primary victims of Philadelphia’s public schools are black students whose chances for upward mobility are being systematically destroyed by callous politicians and teacher’s unions. If the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan set out to destroy black academic excellence in Philadelphia, I doubt whether he could achieve as much damage.” Walter Williams, Jewish World Review, Dec. 19, 2001, “Education fraud in Philly” Yeah, we sure need gooferment education here in New Jersey. And, how is it I incurred the obligation to pay to educate other people’s children? I don’t feed them. I don’t house them. I didn’t have them. Why do I have to pay through the nose to “eddykate” them. Back in the days of the Hands Across New Jersey Tax revolt, I did a white paper that showed if we divided the money spent on education by all the students, we could send everyone to the Hun School in Princeton and still have a 1k$ per kid left over. Bet that calculation is still true. Give education to McDonalds and everyone one will be educated. Ever notice all the non-gooferment preschools that abound. I think there are more than six within SBT alone. Imagine if all education was privatized, there’d be schools everywhere. And on the internet. And, in all sorts of flavors we can only imagine. But, let the gooferment do it. One size fits all that is obscenely expensive and corrupt is sooooo much better!
>screw medicaid.
Yes, all the religious hospitals never gave out charity care. Were not hospitals originated by religious organization? Saint Vincents, Saint Peters, Holy Cross come to mind. And how about Deborah — how did that originate. The gooferment has INTRUDED into areas of civil society where it has no business and does it so badly that it’s a disgrace. I had a very nice lady who ran a private welfare to work organization in Trenton tell me that the mission of the State and County welfare people was to ensure they had an ever growing case load to justify their employment. And the politically connected profited on the human misery of welfare. The State pays for week in a motel what an apartment would cost for a month. But, it makes it impossible for these poor women with families to claw their way out of the grasp. (NO sexism in that. I’m sure they make it just as hard for men.)
>Let us all march into the wonderful libertarian paradise
Yes, let us. Your gooferment imprisons us if we ever try to be free!
>in which we just step blithely and gingerly over the bodies and rotting corpses in the streets.
Not likely, someone will own that road or street and be very interested in keeping it clean and neat. Not like today, where a pothole can lay unattended for years!
>EMTs will require payment up front, otherwise, you just lay in the gutter until the vultures come.
No, but EMTs may have an annual fund drive where the community contributes voluntarily for their operation. And, the people will volunteer their time and effort to succor their fellow human being. And, religious communities will feel it is their moral obligation to help their fellow man. (I think it is humorous in NYC to see Orthodox Jews in their religious attire making ambulance runs on Wall Street.) AND, yes, after a service, you might receive a modest bill for the EMT organization for the cost of their service. With a polite request, that you consider defraying the expense of that service that they willingly gave you. And, once or twice a year, you may get a letter asking for your support of 15 to 30 dollars. Better than one enormous tax bill that you can’t tell covers what.
> That’s the libertarian way.
No, that’s the gooferment way. They put a gun to your head and take “their fair share”.
>If your drinking water is polluted, TOUGH LUCK!
The Gooferment is the acknowledged biggest polluter and the biggest enabler of pollution.
>In libertarian land it will be up to you alone to get rid of your own sewerage.
Yes, you will be RESPONSIBLE to clean up after yourself. Doesn’t South Brunswick Water and Sewer run as a separate entity. I sure pay them enough. Imagine if I had choices? SBW&S versus RotoRooter W&S versus WalMart W&S. Bet there’d be lower rates! And, if I had poluting runoff, what do you think Judge Judy would say? “Clean it up or we’ll do it for you?” And, I’d have an Insurance Company looking over my shoulder to “help” avoid problems.
>Starve the beast so billionaires can get richer.
Yes, because the current system doesn’t starve the poor and reward the rich. Ever wonder why their are so many rich people in gooferment? Argh! You are soooo blind.
All libertarians want is for everyone to be free and have the same choices we want for ourselves.
It’s been a universal drive since the first gooferment took power by force of arms. The People are stronger than any gang of crooks. No matter how they clothe themselves and propagandize themselves. They are and remain thugs who enslave us with our own memes and paradigms.
I’m not a slave. I may be opressed. But, I don’t accept it. See I’m free in my own mind.
“We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.” Viktor Frankl 1946 “Man’s Search for Meaning”
Your gooferemnt can tax me, imprison me, and even kill me. But they can’t take away my liberty!
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AND IT CONTINUED
Anonymous Anonymous said…
Sure there are many volunteer fire departments but who pays for the fire houses, the equipment, the insurances for all the buildings and equipment, the fire engines, the water system that supplies the fire hydrants and maintenance of the fire hydrants and all those miles of water pipes? Who pays? We pay through taxes, TAXES! Oh no, oh my God, taxes, that’s theft, that’s socialism. Alert the media.
Wal-Mart roads? UPS roads? Not likely, UPS is cutting jobs, FedEx is cutting jobs nationwide. DHL is pulling out of America, so forget about DHL roads. When these companies go belly up or make drastic cuts because profits are down they will just abandon their roads. These are companies that only perform functions if there is a profit involved so they would charge for the use of their roads; if UPS takes ownership of Route 27 it would become a toll road. Let’s say that Wal-Mart takes ownership of Route 1, then Route 1 would become another toll road. If they don’t make a profit on these roads then they will just abandon them.
Of course there are crooked corrupt police but there are a sheet load of crooked corrupt people in the private free market sector, too. Because there are crooked corrupt police we should just abandon publicly funded law enforcement?? I guess we should abandon capitalism, too, because there are so many crooked, corrupt, greedy and power hungry capitalists.
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Blogger reinkefj said…
>Sure there are many volunteer fire departments
WOW, a concession to reality.
>hydrants and all those miles of water pipes? Who pays? We pay through taxes
Yes, men with guns extort us to pay for a service that we may or may not want. Now, why can’t we have a “McDonalds-like” solution. Why does every two-bit dictator decide what I will and won’t have? Business offer us services that I can pick and choose voluntarily. Why can’t we just say to the gang pretending to be “government”: “No thank you!”. No government is the Mafia. You will pay for their one size solution and shut up. What if we allowed insurance companies to worry about fire protection and I got to pick between: Allstate, State Farm, and None? Think that it couldn’t work?
>TAXES! Oh no, oh my God, taxes, that’s theft, that’s socialism. Alert the media.
Taxes are socialism and theft. Now you are beginning to get the idea. You have a right to keep your money and spend it as you see fit. Not as a gang of people with fancy dresses and flags say you have to. That gang can be in the SB municipal building, Trenton, DC, or in countless bureaucratic offices across the land. You should be offered choices; that you can make voluntarily. Sir, would you like fries with that? Choices. It’s a mindset. To us, little L libertarian there are few few legitimate functions of what you call “government” and we call “aggression”.
>Wal-Mart roads? UPS roads? Not likely, UPS is cutting jobs, FedEx is cutting jobs nationwide.
> DHL is pulling out of America, so forget about DHL roads.
WalMart spent millions designing a truck with less drag to save gas and deliver lower costs. I’d love to see what they could do with a road!
>When these companies go belly up or make drastic cuts because profits are down they will just >abandon their roads.
Like the State does when they need the money for other purposes? ROFL, you have to be joshing me. When budgets get tight, the first thing the gooferment cuts is “services” to its “customers”. Where as a company cuts the fat.
>would become another toll road.
That’s only one idea in how to monetize a road. Advertising is another. Don’t try to guess what a company or a bright individual will do, you can’t. See that’s what makes a market so dynamic. Have you seen the “adopt a highway” signs. (Humorous, we pay taxes for the roads. Yet gooferment tin cups the clean up.)
>If they don’t make a profit on these roads then they will just abandon them.
Sure, you just throw away assets all the time. Even if you go to bankruptcy, someone buys the assets. Unless the gooferment is involved, then it’s often cheaper to abandon it. Like buildings and property taxes. And zoning and codes, that make it impossible to use. (Remember Sister Theresa in NYC was going to open a mission to help the unfortunate. She couldn’t because of all the city regs on property. When question why she didn’t have elevators, she answered that the Sisters would just carry the unfortunate from floor to floor like they do else where in the world. Denied. And, she went elsewhere.)
>Of course there are crooked corrupt police
Wow, another concession to the real world!
>but there are a sheet load of crooked corrupt people in the private free market sector, too.
First of all, there is no “free market sector” unless you consider the “underground economy” or the “illegal drug trade”. The Gooferment regulates everything. Even Madoff is a function of gooferment regulation. That fellow reported the fraud to the SEC for a decade. (Note: that covers BOTH of what you’d call “political parties” and I call “sides of the same coin”.) AND, in the supposedly “free market sector”, I chose who I give my money too. Madoff may fool me, but he didn’t force me. Fraud is a special form of aggression. BUT, he couldn’t have done it without the willing cooperation fo the gooferment.
>Because there are crooked corrupt police we should just abandon publicly funded law enforcement??
Yes. Not because it’s crooked, but because it’s root in force and aggression. I didn’t agree that they could use force on me, so for whence do they get the authority to hurt people. I can’t go club you. You can’t club me. So where do they get that authority to club people?
> I guess we should abandon capitalism, too, because there are so many crooked,
> corrupt, greedy and power hungry capitalists.
We haven’t tried free market capitalism in this country for a long long time. Since before the Civil War. Ever since the Constitution was signed, the gooferment has been growing and intruding. Let’s try freedom and liberty. It’ll be a nice change.
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