Reinke Faces Life

http://www.jibberjobber.com/

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I like this service. Not at 500$, but at a 100$ it’s a bargain. Or, you can always be a monthly. Of all the ideas that I have seen pitched to those in transitions, this certainly is one of the best. I can tell you that this is not some type of scams aimed at separating the newly out of work from their savings.It surely won’t get you a job, but it will force you to be disciplined about your activities.

Can you duplicate it on your own? Maybe. Can you do without it? Sure Can you exploit it to you benefit for 100$? Absolutely.

Disclaimer: I’ve been one of Jason’s “critical testers” for a few months now in response to a mutual friend asking me to “kick the tires”. As Jason will attest and as I have blogged here, I kicked pretty hard! Some of the features, he put in in response to my “suggestions”. Some, he ignored. All I can tell you is I like it, the wheel don’t fall off when you use it, and you can get your data out of it if you change your mind.

If a new transitioning turkey, or one of those complacent “I gotta job” people, asked for a list of things they could spend money on to aid in their current or future job search, this would be one of three things on that list.

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http://www.ziggs.com/apps/profile/bio.aspx?uid=17380

This is mine.

http://www.americasjobexchange.com

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AmericasJobExchange.com as a successor to America’s Job Bank (AJB). America’s Job Exchange will provide National Labor Exchange services to employers, job hunters and organizations without any interruption when AJB ends in July 2007. The launch of America’s Job Exchange marks the beginning of this transition, and the Company is committed to providing unmatched employment assistance through this new portal.

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I think you should peak in before it becomes the replacement and lots of folks will be hitting it.

A discourage turkey wrote and I responded belatedly

Dear So and So,

{Woosh, TurkeyMaster rushes in to “help”. Yeah, I know, a little late. But, I didn’t notice the message.}

I see that LaneC is on the task.

I’d love to be able to “help”. Lane probably has the “help” well in hand. (Right Lane?)

So allow me to comment for the others out there who are “feeling” similarly.

(1) You must discharge all the negative “static” electricity around your circumstances. When I interview people, take networking meetings, or just “chat”. I can detect when someone is carrying emotional baggage. SO for example, to pick upon XXXXXXX, “Í was severed” just drips with pain. I can feel it. Been there, done that, and have the tshirt with scars for it. But, that’s not accurate, descriptive, or helpful. (Other than to get everyone’s attention.) One has to have an emotionally neutral way of describing your circumstances so as not to give away that you were fired for “stealing the pens, getting drunk at your desk, and bonking the boss’ secretary” (as we used to say at AT&T, describing the three things that could get you fired in those days) How about “A major energy company in Chicago area and I separated when my IT management/Customer Relationship management role was relocated.” “Or, reorganized.” “Or, downsized” “Or, Offshored”. See emotionally neutral. See the difference?

(2) When you ask for help. Be easily helped. “Can someone take a look at my resume” is not “easy to do business with. I’d say something like: This fat old white guy turkey would like you to look at my resume at http://tinyurl.com/22onnq and comment by email at http://tinyurl.com/2rlpef“. See the diff? Make it easy for people to find what you want them to help with. imho

(3) Yes, it is a numbers game. “I’ve been applying regularly and have gotten quite a few interviews and although close I did not receive any offers.” Well, I would be interest in how you are measuring things. “applying regularly” could mean every day I submit on one job I find on Monster. “Quite a few interviews” could mean 10, 100, or a 1,000? “Close” makes me cringe. It’s like “try”. There is no close. There’s only “yes” or “no”. So for example, I can tell you the last search I did — after accepting my current job but before I collected my first paycheck — I send out 40 items with my Resume Version 18 & 19 resumes and Cover Letters 38 & 39 and that, within 14 days, RV18CL38 received an 80% response rate! RV19CL38 got 30%, RV18CL39 got 0%, and RV19CL38 got 0%. I liked CL39 but clearly it has a problem. Shredder for that one. See the diff. I know I’m an injineer and I like to measure things. The glass can be both half-full and half-empty. But it can’t be “close”, “a few”, or “regularly”.

Sorry I wasn’t here promptly when you needed it, but hopefully this will be of some assistance. I invite you, or anyone, to visit my “turkey farm” http://tinyurl.com/lxu93 for my view of “transition”. And, if you drop me an email, I have some stuff I’ve created that might help. http://tinyurl.com/2lo4hw

Again, sorry to be late to the party, I myself am being reorged. And, have been busy, surfing “the dangerous winds of change”. As some smart Chinese fellow observed about “Opportunity rides …”

Hope I can help,
Fjohn
The Big Fat Old Turkey

I am always amazed how people use their employer’s email for “jobsearch”.

For example, LINKEDIN.

If you suddenly become a newly minted turkey (i.e., get nuked from your current job), then do you really want your LinkedIn account tied to your old employer’s email address?

I’d suggest “no” is the answer to that one.

Also, but slightly less passionately, just slightly, I would assert that you don’t want your ISP to control your email.

There’s a reason they give you and your family free email and it’s not for your benefit because they are “nice guys”. Account control! You can’t easily change ISPs if they have control of “your” email address. Intelligent Designer forbid, you can even use their “free” webspace to put your content under their control. That’s another barrier to changing.

(It’s really bad if your employer is your isp. But, that’s a different discussion.)

Nope, I suggest that you buy your own domain and hang your email off that.

If you really want to use your ISP’s email, you CAN forward the email from your domain email at the WSP to your ISP email account. BUT, I suggest that you “route” all your email thru “your” email account at the WSP.

Don’t give anyone a chance to lock you in. Buy internet access from your ISP. Buy webspace from any reputable WSP.

[Mine is 1and1 http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=9113251 and disclaimer I get a pittance if your sign up from this link. It’s no big deal to me if you do or don’t.]

You should get lots of truly free email addresses with your webpage service provider.

Use your domain email to prevent “lock in” to your ISP and (more importantly) “lock out” from your employer’s email should you get fired or quit.

http://www.jibberjobber.com/
blog/archives/473

http://tinyurl.com/37hrth

Know What We Do Around Here All Day?
March 22nd, 2007

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Well… we’re not quite sure! :) But one thing we have as a top priority is making things better for you. That’s why you see improvements in JibberJobber on a regular basis. A couple of days ago we slipped some new features in and we wanted to make sure you knew about it. They may seem trivial (we have a huge – HUGE enhancement coming out in April/May) but they are nice “finishing touches” for you.

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Thing 3 – plays nice with TinyURL

At the bottom of the Add Network Contact page we have “services” … this is where you can say someone’s instant messenger is MSN (or IM), and their handle is hounddog@hotmail.com. Or their Skype ID is hounddog. Or their Yahoo handle for chatting is hounddog@yahoo.com.

Big thanks to John Reinke (who has a really, really good blog) for suggesting we add the ability to put in a TinyURL.

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Jason Alba has been listening to me whine about what I think a “seeker’s pim” should have. He generously credits me for his design of TINYURL and URL displaying. He’s very kind. I just told him what I didn’t like; he and his team incorporated that feedback. It’s a pleasure to have my whine be more than just a whine. All to often, it’s like the wolf baying at the moon. I guess the wolf feels better. But it doesn’t make the moon run away.

http://www.loc.gov/today/cyberlc/
feature_wdesc.php?rec=4029

Paul Orfalea, the creative and inspiring founder of Kinko’s (now FedEx Kinko’s), discussed his theories and instincts on how to succeed, in business and in life in a program sponsored by the Science, Technology and Business Division.

http://www.alignitadvisors.com/blog/2007/03/true-networking.html

http://tinyurl.com/2xcawx

Thursday, March 15, 2007
True Networking

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This investment will take several Face-to-Face or telephonic discussions and e-mail doesn’t make it.

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Not sure I agree with that.

It is possible to establish a relationship, a rapport, and trust with people that one never meets. Never “talks” too. Or, meets.

I’m no expert, but I think you can do it.

I’ve been “in”, “out”, and in between. I’ve done f2f networking from all three statuses. I’ve done “networking” in person, on the phone, even by fax, by email, and by im. It’s about creating a relationship. My objective is to learn enough about the person to serve them well. In doing that, they give me more in return than I think I gave them.

As a “recovering introvert”, I think that my e-efforts have born far more benefits than my “off line” ones.

And, on my blog, I take comments. That’s not available on the the blog where this observation was made. It’s all about getting a conversation going. imho.

Of course, I welcome your comments. (Be gentle; remember I’m ISTJ!)

No one wants us old guys any more; people just prefer to reinvent the wheel! And they are mired in stereotypes that an “old IT exec” longs for the days of CICS and the UNIX command line. Or was that days of UNIX and CICS command lines.

p.s., Funny as it sounds a hunter did contact me and ask if i was interested in doing CICS and Cobol maintenance. I don’t think they were planning on paying THAT much. But it was funny.

http://www.cardscan.net

What is CardScan At Your Service?

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Learn More

CardScan At Your Service is a free online address book that integrates seamlessly with CardScan and Outlook to keep your contact information secure, accessible and up-to-date. You can add contacts to your At Your Service address book by synchronizing with Outlook or CardScan, or by entering them directly into the web site. Storing contacts on both your desktop PC and CardScan At Your Service safeguards the information against accidental loss.

With CardScan At Your Service, you can view and update your contact information from a Web browser from anywhere, at anytime. Any changes or additions made on the web site are automatically reflected on your PC and vice versa.

If you choose, CardScan At Your Service can also keep your contact information up-to-date. The Updates service emails your contacts four times a year to request their updated contact information. The email includes your contact information to ensure that you stay connected. Click here to see a sample email.

With At Your Service Updates, you remain in complete control. If you choose to use it, you can turn it off any time, or you can use it only for specific contacts.

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Corex, the makers of a little card scanner device, evidently has seen Plaxo and decided to emulate them. It used to be that you needed to buy their scanner to get their service. Apparently that is no longer the case. You may want to avail yourself of the service.

One note of caution: They have been acquired by Rubbermaid. I don’t know how long they’ll be around or how trustworthy they are?

I guess I was 40 when it first slapped me in the face. A Wall Street HR type, bluntly, unprofessionally, and oblivious to the fact I might be wired, told me to my face that I was “too old” for Wall Street.

Actually the bozo did my a favor.

I immediately updated my emergency fund formula with a factor for age. I put a multiplier in the calculation that guesstimated weeks to find a paycheck that was age specific.

(It’s currently still set at 30=1/40=1.5/45=2/50=3/55=4/60=5/65=6! I have no idea if that is the right setting, but you should see the newly minted turkeys eyes bug out when they catch a glimpse of that.)

In actuality, I am coming to the realization that at 65, all you’ll get is my career aspiration — to be the old fogy that’s the WalMart greeter. Seriously, maybe then I’ll get over being an introvert.

Point of emphasis, I think at these advanced ages, you ARE after all just one step from the nursing home and another step away from the grave, only likely to succeed in your own business.

As Amerika grays, I think those that can grasp the prejudice, like a nettle, will succeed. The rest will be eating dogfood and playing mahjong at some retirement village in lower slobbobia.

Depressing. “I coulda been a contenda!”

In alpha order:

* ACT is a true CRM, does email, but doesn’t sync like Plaxo, and doesn’t interface with LinkedIn. No support.

* JibberJobber is an up and comer. It is a true Web20 application, allows you to get your data in and out, doesn’t do email, but is more like a CRM for jobsearch. And, the support is responsive. (This is my current front runner.)

* LICM is not CRM, has a harder interface, and is tough to get into. It depends upon LinkedIn. Has support.

* LinkedIn (MySpace for Business) enforces its model of networking, doesn’t allow you to input stuff, and doesn’t make it easy to keep your data. It doesn’t talk to anything else. Support unresponsive for the most part.

* Outlook is ugly, but it does email. (I’ve tried the BCM addon and it was terrible.) Microsoft and support in the same sentence; that’s a joke.

* Plaxo syncs but not much else. (But its vendor never claimed it was a CRM.) Has good support.

* ZIGGS20 is really slow, brain dead, ugly, doesn’t sync, and appears to be a dead end. Data in but it doesn’t come out. No support.

One of the LKDNNJ members pointed out that libraries with their usually free internet printer-equipped computers is a valuable resource.

(I knew that because when I was “out” and interviewing in NYC, I’d use libraries to land in between interviews. Them, and hotels, were excellent for rest room facilities and a place to kill some time between appointments.)

Glad to be “in”, but as usual I always anticipate being “out’. Forewarned is forearmed. Or is that four armed?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17030580/site/newsweek/

http://tinyurl.com/2655bb

How I Became a Big Wheel

Let go by IBM and deeply in debt, a family man turned his childhood passion for unicycles into a thriving online start-up.

By John Drummond Newsweek

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It was supposed to be a hobby—just a part-time thing to generate a little extra money. We didn’t think we could make a living at it. I thought I would work at IBM for 30 years and retire, just as my father had. At that point I had only seven to go. The dot-com bust began in early 1999, about the same time we launched Unicycle.com. The odds seemed stacked against us. Online companies were folding. We had no experience running a company. Amy was an at-home mom to our three boys. I had just earned a degree in journalism by attending college at night. We were deeply in debt.

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Necessity is … …

That is the power of the internet to transform our world.

If you don’t have a second business that is working, then you better have ones that you are trying.

I have FOUR in various stages of incubation.

Even if they all tank, I’ll know what doesn’t work.

XING doesn’t allow an import.

JIBBERJOBBER couldn’t figure out how to set Contact Category.

LINKEDIN has “invitations” and doesn’t allow me to assemble or annotate.

Argh!

ACT50 doesn’t import other contact files.

ZOHO CRM wouldn’t take me.

THINKFREE has no contact import.

An email to a fellow who just got nuked form his government job.

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Dear So and So,

http://home.comcast.net/~v2y2r0n27rhj6y/TURKEY/index.htm

My “turkey farm” is my series of webpages that I use for counseling newly minted turkeys.

Turkeys are those good people who get nuked from their jobs. It’s a loving term from the first time it happened to me. The first time I was fired, I was sent to the “outplacement firm”. I ran into a group of guys, much wiser than I, who welcomed me to the “turkey farm”. We were all turkeys went the popular wisdom, having been axed by our employers as valueless to that organization. Or at least less valuable than the salary one was drawing. Everyone would rejoinder “Oh not I. I’m different! I did X, Y, and Z.” in a defensive manner. But, they’d be “gobbled” down, by a chorus of gobbling fools, because by being there it was defacto evidence that they were a “turkey”. Hence when it happened to me, I embraced my “turkey-ness” and learned as much as I could. I’ve been “nuked” FIVE times — fired twice, set myself up to leave twice, and a once by mutual agreement — in my career. Each time it was a “blessing”. Painful, but still a great blessing. I used the severance to open my first consulting business. And would have never done it without the “push”.

It’s not easy to admit that I am a “turkey”. I believe that it will happen at least once more. (Strangely, perversely, I’d welcome the severance payment.) So, I’m a “turkey in waiting who is getting a paycheck right now”, but I have no illusion about corporate loyalty. The winds of change can make my version of “left handed paper hanging” obsolete overnight. I KNOW I could be “outside” looking “in” in a heartbeat.

But, now I am a wise old turkey. And, I share the principles of “turkey-ness” with baby turkeys. One wag, now employed after accepting some of my foolishness, called me the “turkey master”. Like Yoda, making “turkey warriors”. He also called me a “turkey baster” (for pouring ideas, time, and attention over him until some of it stuck). He also accused me of “stuffing” him with “stuff” (data, info, knowledge, and wisdom?) about being a “turkey” until it was popping out all over. I’ve also been accused of giving “baby turkeys” whiplash when I deluge them with my “stuff”. The analogy is the “baby turkey” is standing by the road hitchhiking, and I zoom by, grab them by the thumb, and make them run to keep up.

When you were “in”, I was giving you some of my particular brand of thinking. Now that you are “out”, you’re still welcome to it.

I don’t envy the road you have to travel. It’s hard to pick yourself up metaphorically and emotionally, dust yourself off, and get moving again. Some people NEVER do it. They are consumed by the past, what could have been, and how they were wronged. In your case, I think that a certain amount of effort is worthwhile in consulting with people about your particular situation. With a State job, it may be possible to “go home again”, I don’t know. At the very least, it may be possible to extract a settlement, better severance, another State job, or some other kind of windfall. But, at some point, you will have to move beyond where you were Thursday and today. It nature. You can’t feast on yesterday’s kill forever.

I hope that getting back on “your road” is quick and easier than it was for me. Every time I “fall”, it seems to hurt more because I know enough that I should have seen that “bump” coming.

Best wishes, advise how I can help,
FJR
The big fat old turkey

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Of course, I extend the offer to all.

Use the “force”.

“Do, or do not. There is no TRY!”

Turkeys are just eagles who don’t know how to soar yet?

Yeah, I know, knock off the “turkeying” around and get back to real work.

By The Way, speaking of me as the BFOT {Big Fat Old Turkey!} have you heard of my new LinkedIn_New_Jersey effort?

No? http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/LINKEDIN_NEW_JERSEY is yet another of my “get ready for your next transition” projects. Why not get all the New Jersey people to come to a yahoo group and network. Beats me trying to find them all by myself. Build it and they will come. ;-)

L8r.

>”When do top networkers work?”

I don’t regard my self as a “very good networker”; some will argue with me that I’m better at it than they are. BUT I don’t regard that as an appraisal; just an urging to try harder. Some of my concepts are: differentiating “networks” by objective, measuring “days outstanding” by group, and “build it; they will come”. Those make me look more like a “very good networker” than the shy fellow I really am.

So, I can say that this mediocre networker works every chance he gets. I try to multitask, innovate, and use “power” whenever I can.

Part of the realization that I came to after I was fired for the first time, (Quite a shock to a kid who grew up with the concept of lifetime employment in a big company. Where only drunks, thieves, and philanderers were fired! So what was I? Just unlucky.), was that my most important “job” was finding my “next job”. If you adopt the “me, myself, and I incorporated” mentality, then networking is “working”. Finding the next job is the highest priority. Sorry to say that, even if you sacrifice the oft-cited kid’s softball game, dance recital, skool play, even if you give it “all” to mother company for that paycheck, even if you bleed company ink, it ain’t gonna matter when the layoff notices come.

You have to realize the cold hard facts.

=> You have to generate value to keep retaining value (You deserve a “pay check” today. Do You?). [[I think that was the ‘work” you were asking about!]]

=> You have to keep your head screwed on straight as to what is your long term value generation strategy (Where do I retain value tomorrow?).

=> You have to think about how you retain some of that value for yourself (No margin; no mission).

=> You have to think about WHERE you’ll find that situation that allows you to retain it (How will I sell myself?) going forward.

=> You have to ANTICIPATE what will change (Silent traumatic violent changes will upset your nice plans?) in the future.

IMHO “working” on one thing must be integrated, mutiltasked, folded into the overall activities of the day.

When someone is “networking”, then IMHO they are “working” on facets #2, #3, #4, and #5!

All I can say is that goodness for long boring mandatory attendance conference calls that give considerable time for introspection.

From my point of view, as a big fat old turkey,
Fjohn

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/LINKEDIN_NEW_JERSEY/

LINKEDIN_NEW_JERSEY

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LINKEDIN_NEW_JERSEY is a jumping off point for finding LinkedIn groups forming or formed in New Jersey.

In order to join this group, you have to connect with the owner or moderators. (We don’t have any moderators yet. No one has volunteered.) Send your LinkedIn Connection Invitation to reinke fj — at — spam yahoo dot com. After of course taking out that part of the address that is to defeat the harvesting bots. ;-) As soon as your connect and application emails show up, I’ll admit you to this exclusive — as exclusive as all those who get wet in the rain may apply — group.

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I invited all my LinkedIn contacts to it; Either to participate because they are in New Jersey or to steal the idea for their own Yahoo LinkedIn SomeAtrribute Group. Let’s see if it gets traction.

It’s essential, but slow.

This is a great source and overview

http://www.otiscollier.com/linkedin/linkedin-resources.html

Also, run the 40 minute virtual rolodex / LinkedIn presentation

http://www.otiscollier.com/linkedin/linkedin.html

It is very recruiter centric but the seeker needs to know what the hunter is doing so that you can be “sought”.

It is interesting the “participation web”. First found on Amazon, they harnessed their users into an unpaid workforce. So, of all the things I do for free, should I monetize some or all of them. Turn it from a “labor of love” into some “retirement money” for my old age? Recruiters are doing this on the social networking sites. Why can’t we all?

Monday – Writing

Tuesday – Teaching

Wednesday – Coding

Thursday – Inventing

Friday – Coaching

http://execunet.blogspot.com/2007/01/price-of-leadership.html

Saturday, January 27, 2007
The Price of Leadership

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So why did reading Mr. Clark’s letter give me such pause? Because it sounded to me like the words from a very decent man who had reached the point where he felt he had to give up. That the law written to manage the few had made Board participation so painful, unrewarding, and frustrating that it just wasn’t worth it any more. Life is too short.

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Libertarian at 08824 said…

I’m not so sure that we need “laws”. (Or what the gang in washington produces, that some people call “laws” and “regulations”! Not to go off on a tangent but imho a law is something like gravity. Try a break it. Everything else is a watered down wanna be.)

Let’s examine the problem that they are claiming to solve. Enron, and its ilk.

You and I both know that it is hard to get a job with enron on your resume. Do you think that the mucky mucks are going to work again in a position of trust? Nah.

I see the financial market as having solved that problem real quick.

We will always have con men with us. The market metes our a fast harsh discipline. And, the “laws” are powerless to do anything to prevent it.

And, if the government’s role is to protect us from aggression from without and within, (a job it does poorly), then throw thieves in the clink and let the rest of us fend for ourselves. We are anyway.

Did any one get restitution from enron? Nah. But the politicians made lots of speeches and did lot’s of posturing.

Every time the government “helps” us, we have unintended consequences.

Look at NOLA, WalMart’s trucks were turned away and FEMA handed out phone numbers. Argh! Why are we so stupid to believe in the tooth fairy, honest politicians, or government “help”?

We’d be better off left to the marketplace. At least your cited subject could still be in “his” business.

January 28, 2007 9:03 AM

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/LINKEDIN_NEW_JERSEY/

I think this will be the umbrella group for all the subordinate zip groups that eventually get created.

JIBBERJOBBER may not have the right metaphor for all situations (Another Iteration)

The recent JibberJobber carnival demonstrated (by rubbing my nose in it) that I don’t have a written strategy for the next twenty earning years.

So I went to my Job Seeker’s PIM and said hmmm, let me plug in my new strategy (scribbled on a post it), and looked for a tab.

I wanted to put in timeframe – objective – UVP – USP – Requirements – timetable.

But I really couldn’t do it.

So I said to self, “Self, perhaps the metaphor is wrong?” I was aghast. Disloyalty again. Oh wait, I’m just an unpaid volunteer, trying to help. I can’t be disloyal or wrong. I’m the USER!

Perhaps, the seeker’s model is that there is a think called “UVPs”.

How am I going to get there from here and when?

My favorite Jobseeker’s PIM doesn’t accommodate that.

A lot of room for improvement here.

Based on encouragement from the Chief Cheerleader, I created some more Yahoo “LinkedIn” groups — yes I can hear it now “not yet another
bunch of groups” — to address my pet peeve “near by ed ness”.

Locality.

The way I see it, if you’re in NYC you can get to any place in Manhattan to klache, clique, or any other coffee-related activity to bond with your LinkedIn colleagues. Maybe some networking might even ensue. Other geographies can reasonable be thought to be local.

Not so in New Jersey, (properly pronounced Nu Jer Zeeeee)! It has some unique challenges. Which are of course unanswered by anything we currently have. It’s a long way from tip to toe in New Jersey. And, in the guts of North and Central Jersey, width is measured in traffic jams per mile. And, the bottom of the peanut, it’s a long way from Camden to AC.

So, in order to bond with my fellow LinkedIn-ites in the Garden State, I created some groups.

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/LINKEDIN_NEW_JERSEY/

To collect anyone interested in LinkedIn activities in New Jersey. I’d envision this to be the focus point for spinning off ZIPCODE groups.

I kicked off the idea with a ZIPCODE group near my place of work 08054

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/LINKEDIN08054/

and one near home 08824.

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/LINKEDIN08824/

All three have unique logos! Yes, I tried to compensate for predictable names.

I invite all interested in klatching, cliquing, or otherwise meeting up / networking with me or others around your geography to join.

As is the new trend, you must “apply” and give your “linkedin url” to be admitted. Other than that it’s as exclusive as rainfall. Good manners are appreciated.

I welcome others to “steal” the idea. And, will be glad to walk you thru the concept and steps.

If you don’t like the idea, then it’s all Vincent’s fault. he made me do it. ;-)

F. John Reinke
Kendall Park, NJ 08824
Mount Laurel, NJ 08054