LIBERTY: “GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS SOCIAL SECURITY” … … is the wrong argument!

—–Original Message—–
From: A Friend Of Mine (yes I have a few)
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:33 PM
To: John Reinke
Subject: Defeat these Senators!

Below is a list of U.S. Senators who just voted to give illegal aliens
Social Security benefits; in essence, your FICA monies. Money to people
who are here illegally. Remember this at election time. They depend on
us to forget, and most of us do.

THESE ARE THE SENATORS WHO VOTED TO GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS SOCIAL SECURITY
BENEFITS. REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY, THESE POLITICIANS NEED TO BE
DEFEATED IN 2006, 2008 OR 2010 WHENEVER THEY COME UP FOR OFFICE.
SEND THIS TO ANYONE YOU KNOW IN ANY OF THE STATES LISTED. THE ENTIRE
POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION. THAT IS
UNLESS THEY DO NOT MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS
WHEN AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE BEING LEFT OUT.

—–Reply Message—–
How about if we stop using force on everybody in sight?
As far as bad guys coming in, if we pull our troops home, and stop messing in other people's business, we'll be much much safer.

As far as freeloaders coming in, just end welfare. It's just the theft of people's stuff to give to other people.

So kill social security, all the other forms of government welfare to individual, corporate welfare, the drug war, the public skoolz, and all the myriad of things that the government does!

And, make no mistake, Social Security Insurance, is a deliberate mislabeling of a Ponzi scheme designed to put all older Americans on welfare. Their pay in doesn't even come close to matching the payout. SSI is nothing more than a transfer from poor minority males to old rich white females! SSI has single handedly demolished the traditional family. Before Roosevelt, families of different generations bonded together to help each other. Old folks lived with or near their children and helped with the economics and the grand children. With the advent of SSI, they had the wear with all to move to Florida and "retire". Until such time as then need a nursing home, all of their assets magically disappear and it becomes the government's burden. In the old days, the family figured it out. And, there were charities to help. Remember the old soldiers home, and such? I do.

Then, there will be NO need to use force on people?

Prior to 1924, there was no immigration control. Then, only people willing to work come here. There was a vibrant civil society, outside of the government, to help them. The various fraternal organizations have there roots in the need to help immigrants to land. The Churches had a huge role in social services. All as a balance to government.

See that is all what it is about — government control! They get us fighting over the scraps that they the rulers deign to allow drop from their table. e fight with each other over this issue or that issue.
The free market allows people to CHOOSE what services they want. Only government gets to dictate what services we will pay for.

Arghh!

Let's shine up the Statue of Liberty and get back to those ideals.

7 Responses to LIBERTY: “GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS SOCIAL SECURITY” … … is the wrong argument!

  1. reinkefj's avatar reinkefj says:

    >So Where’s the freakin’ list?

    You’ll have to address that question to anyone of the numerous people who sent it around, as I said in my blog post, it’s the wrong fight! We need to end the welfare system that encourages people to come here and live off the taxpayer. I don’t care if these deadbeats are foreign “illegal” aliens or the home grown variety. Cut them all off! And, don’t forget about corporations who are living off of “corporate welfare”. Finally let’s ditch all the politicians, bureaucrats, and hangers on who milk the system for our blood. Worrying about who ever get SSI, or whatever type check, has the right pedigree papers is the wrong question. Cut all the freeloaders off and we can plan for our own needs without a huge cut for the various gangs in power.

    But thanks for the comment,
    fjohn

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  2. Joanie's avatar Joanie says:

    So Where’s the freakin’ list? The original message says “Below is a list of U.S. Senators who just voted to give illegal aliens
    Social Security benefits; in essence, your FICA monies. Money to people
    who are here illegally. Remember this at election time. They depend on
    us to forget, and most of us do.”.
    So why don’t I see the list? I want to know who they are!

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  3. reinkefj's avatar reinkefj says:

    I believe that I made the point that the problem was not “immigration”. America was, used to be, a beacon to immigrants that want to come and work hard. And, we thrived! Now, the problem is welfare aka the forced redistribution of wealth. Gooferment thugs with guns rob us to pay for it. And, like any free good, it attracts the worst freeloaders. I think the correct answer is to end welfare, period. The Gooferment Ponzi scheme should be unwound like was done in Chile during the 70’s (spearheaded by a Harvard economics graduate and done with an illiterate population with a bankrupt economy). Then, we’d ALL be better off. If that’s moronic, then I am one moron that thinks solving the right problem is more important, effective, and efficient than solving other less-important “problems”.

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  4. Scott's avatar Scott says:

    reinkefj: it’s moronic for you to say “it’s a ponzi scheme” and then say ‘so what’ to millions of illegal aliens being added to the ponzi scheme.

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  5. reinkefj's avatar reinkefj says:

    Dear Ed: It’s not my job to propagate said list when I say “so what”. Social Security is a ponzi scheme. An intergenerational wealth transfer system. A welfare program that xfers wealth from poor minority men to rich white women. It’s theft plain and simple. So the issue isn’t who’s on the dole. It’s why is there a dole in the first place. imho. All the congress critters in Washington except for Ron Paul should be voted out. Period.

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  6. Ed McCrary's avatar Ed McCrary says:

    Did not get a list attached to article. Would like to know what senators voted for illegal aliens to receive social security,.

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  7. brown pharr's avatar brown pharr says:

    you did not include the NAMES of the ones voting for illegal aliens to have the right to social security and services. Please send me a list at the above e-mail address apharr@nc.rr.com Thank you

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