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First they do contribute by putting money back into the economy via Wal-Mart target, grocery stores. Many of them work to support a child born here who is therefore a citizen. Yes they send money home to Mexico but they’ve worked for the mo…ney and should support their families. Do they pay tax- no but so many upper middle class and above earners cheat on their taxes thats its a hypocritical argument. The corporations who essentially pay little to tax due to laws written to protect their profits do more damage to the economy then illegal aliens. The current health care bill would allow you to keep the insurance you have now, but would provide affordable health care to the less fortunate. It would also create jobs and reduce the deficit by a couple of hundred million dollars. We are not looking to model Canada-the vast majority of Americans wouldn’t even notice the change, so your process would have remained the same, thank God. But a member of your church whose been laid off with no insurance for five months and is diagnosed with a terminal illness will have options for affordable and competent care without concern of being denied for a pre-existing condition. Babies born here to illegal immigrants are US citizens at birth and are no different than Liv and Luke and they are entitled to first rate health care. I’d say Luke 12:48 says it well- to whom much is given from much will be required; and to whom much has been entrusted, a larger amount will be demanded. Since everyone and their brother uses religion as a shield I think it’s important to remind them that Jesus surrounded himself with the dredges of society- criminals, whores, lepers and the disenfranchised. He didn’t forsake them because they were poor, in the minority or out of touch with mainstream society. He asked for nothing but faith and in return promised life everlasting. Today churches judge you on a few things- what do you make, what can you give, and can you argue against the poor, disenfranchised, downtrodden trying to make a change. Tonight at church the pastor stood in his 10 million dollar church and talked about material things not being important. I bet a 37000 square foot barn could have been built for a lot less and that a lot of money could have been given to the poor for training programs or education programs. Alas a church was built for the affluent congregation that we are, where we could listen to stories about the poor, but when service ends we go back to our Volvo’s or BMW’s and drive to our house on the cul-de- sac, turn on the flat screen TV and make a nice dinner and drink some wine. Now of course we’ll do a food drive, label the bag with the church logo, and deliver the food in our church sweatshirts and hats while we sip our latte’s and check our smartphone to avoid having to actually engage the downtrodden. If we do engage them we push Jesus on them but forget to mention how we can actually affect change in their life. I want a church where we don’t reinterpret Gods message but instead deliver it as he would- come in your welcome, who you are or what you have is irrelevant as long as you have faith and no-one will judge you based on your gender, race or sexual orientation. I am the God of love, not hate, and no one on earth should try to tell you what I meant or stood for, nor should they invoke Christianity into political arguments that are secular issues.
I think we would all get along better if we sought solutions based on what’s happening today, not trying reinterpret the constitution or the bible because no one knows the true intent of either document.
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Ahh, an diatribe or rant by my favorite Socialist. Let’s put it under the little L libertarian’s microscope.
(On an editorial note. I see no paragraphs or outline. Hmm, not evidence of a post-graduate writing. And, it forgets that whole “between stimulus and response” thing. And, is it trying to convince?)
>First they do contribute by putting money back into the economy
I don’t think we SHOULD have “illegal aliens”. I think people should be able to move freely. Subject to a border check for criminals. I think “Green Cards” should be issued at the border. We need all those, willing to work, to jump in the boat, grab and oar, and start rowing. As such, in a Libertarian America, there’d be no welfare to sponge off of, so no need to keep willing workers out. Also, since there’d be no “(pseudo) War on (some) Drugs”, there would be very few “contraband” to be smuggled.
Current day “illegal aliens” do pay taxes. Every product purchased in the store carries a hidden tax — remember the 35% corporate tax? Only real people pay taxes, so it’s passed along. Rent an apartment; who really pays the rea estate tax. And, let’s not forget those poor slobs who get a “real job” with a fake SSN, where does their FICA go? Uncle Sugar!
> …but so many upper middle class and above earners cheat
If you are being ROBBED, hiding stuff from the thief isn’t cheating!
>The corporations who essentially pay little to tax
Corporations DO NOT PAY taxes; they pass them along. Only REAL people pay taxes. It’s a fraud on the American Sheeple. Let’s kill this meme once and for all.
> due to laws written to protect their profits
Ahh, but your friends the D’s, the champions of the little people, had all three branches of Gooferment. So, those problems were fixed already. Right!
>The current health care bill would allow you to keep the insurance you have now
Can’t keep what is available. Folks are finding it out the hard way. More Insurance Companies are stopping coverages. WHICH was the very purpose of the law. Single payer. Medicare for all.
How stupid are people?
And, dnf, the 750+ “exemptions”.
> but would provide affordable health care to the less fortunate.
In your dreams. The catastrophic care isn’t being signed up for. And, the state exchanges ain’t gonna be created.
>It would also create jobs and reduce the deficit by a couple of hundred million dollars.
Sure, for Gooferment bureaucrats!
>We are not looking to model Canada-the vast majority of Americans wouldn’t even notice the change, so your process would have remained the same, thank God.
Sorry, but with docs thinking about leaving medicine and practices shutting to new patients, there’s going to be huge changes.
>But a member of your church whose been laid off with no insurance for five months and is diagnosed with a terminal illness will have options for affordable and competent care without concern of being denied for a pre-existing condition.
So the Gooferment creates the problem (i.e., medical insurance tied to employment as a result of WW2 wage and price controls), and the solution is (taaa dah, wait for it) … more Gooferment diktats and programs.
p.s., “pre existing” — like placing your bet after the race. why would the racetrack survive?
>Babies born here to illegal immigrants are US citizens at birth
That may or may not be true. It depends on an “interesting” reading of the 14th, designed to ensure freed slaves got to vote. It’s never been tested in the courts that an “illegal immigrant” would satisfy those conditions.
>are no different than Liv and Luke and they are entitled to first rate health care.
Sure are. They are the children of a privileged high-ranking Gooferment bureaucrat. Like the old USSR, they are far ahead of all the “mundanes”.
>I’d say Luke 12:48
Perhaps, it might be referring to the Final Judgement? Nothing prevents you from being charitable. But, what the Gooferment does is NOT charity.
>- criminals, whores, lepers and the disenfranchised.
Well, it’s hard to make a joke around serious topics, but working in the Gooferment, I’d suggest you’re surrounded by the first. Not sure about the rest.
>political arguments that are secular issues.
It’s not my place to critique others’ charity or faith. I’ve got enough to worry about my own. Unfortunately, with the Gooferment’s intrusion into ALL areas, and a direct hostility to “religion”, “faith”, and “charity”, EVERY argument is a “political” one.
In the movie the Three Muskateers (any era), the Church is the natural opponent of the King for the loyalty of the People. Just as in a hive, there can be only one Queen. So too, the Gooferment has to kill its rival “The Church”. That’s why it claims jurisdiction over “churches” by its insistence that they become “corporations”. Zoning, 1099s, classifications, rules, diktats. Had to be faithful with the Gooferment “helping”.
>I think we would all get along better if we sought solutions
I think we’d all be better off if we sought solutions based on freedom and liberty!
> based on what’s happening today,
What’s happening today is for the most part a product of the past errors. Building upon past mistakes is putting lipstick on the pig!
> not trying reinterpret the constitution or the bible
Both are relatively simple and need little “interpretation”
>because no one knows the true intent of either document.
Well the Constitution is pretty well understood as far as intentions. The Federalists, who wanted a strong central Gooferment, were unhappy with the weaknesses of the Articles. So they pulled the wool over the eyes of the Sheeple and swapped in the “Constitution”.
Now, it’s just ignored.
The “Bible” is an interesting research project in and of itself. Who knows what the original “Bible” was.
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Let’s get back to basics. People will be free. Even in the worst dictatorship, a prison, or a “free society”, they will do what they want to do. Civil disobedience that evidenced everyday. Example, speed limits. If the Gooferment can’t keep drugs out of its prisons, then how does it expect to keep them out of Gooferment Skrules.
Let’s seek solutions that are based on freedom and liberty. They’ll last.
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