GUNS: How did “victim disarmament” cause the Indian slaughter

Saturday, December 6, 2008

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/024230.html

November 30, 2008
How Gun Control Laws Contributed To the Mumbai Slaughter
Posted by Butler Shaffer at November 30, 2008 07:14 PM

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An interesting article, from October, 2005, provided by http://www.gunowners.org:

Gun Control And Self-defense Against Terrorism In India
by Abhijeet Singh
Colonial Roots of Gun-Control

I live in India and I am a proud firearm owner — but I am the exception not the norm, an odd situation in a country with a proud martial heritage and a long history of firearm innovation. This is not because the people of India are averse to gun ownership, but instead due to Draconian anti-gun legislation going back to colonial times.

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I blogged about this when I first heard it.

It’s not “gun control”; it’s “victim disarmament”!

Interesting how Colonial Laws from one set of politicians are quickly “updated” by another set of politicians. They all fear an armed people.

Riots? The Korean grocers showed how to end mob rule very quickly.

Gun rights, aka the right to defend yourself, is actually also a “women’s rights” issue.

The Holocaust demonstrated what happens when scapegoats are unarmed.

British home invasions, when the homes are occupied, skyrocket with “victim disarmament”!

Apparently the Indian slaughter in Mumbai was pulled off by 10 criminals. Reports have armed police refusing to fire on them. And, the “crack commandos” were like the Keystone Kops. (Remember Columbine, where the “heroic” police encircled the school, until the criminals finished killing everyone and themselves?)

Remember how Israeli schools and daycare centers were targeted until armed grandparents started providing security. And, the last massacre was on a school trip where guns were not permitted.

Wake up folks! Criminals don’t obey laws. Kops are just gooferment bureaucrats who are there to clean up the bodies and fill out paperwork. Dial 911 and die.

Of interest was in the 2006 article, the Indian writer cited Gandhi, the Dali Lama, Lenin, and a slew of the DOWGs! Fascinating.

“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.” — Mahatma Gandhi (An Autobiography OR The story of my experiments with truth, by M.K. Gandhi, p.238)

“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” — The Dalai Lama, (May 15, 2001, The Seattle Times) speaking at the “Educating Heart Summit” in Portland, Oregon, when asked by a girl how to react when a shooter takes aim at a classmate

“A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.” — Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”— George Mason

From my cold dead hands … …

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HERE’S ANOTHER STORY!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/mumbais_harsh_lesson_on_gun_co.html

December 10, 2008
Mumbai’s Harsh Lesson on Gun Control
By Abhijeet Singh

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At the Jewish outreach centre, bystanders pelted the terrorists with stones in a vain attempt to ward off the attack, but had to retreat when the terrorists opened fire with automatic rifles. Our citizens were trying to ward off the terrorists with stones! I cannot think of a more extreme example of how helpless the government has rendered it’s own citizens. In the absence of guns, and thus incapable of offering any resistance, they were simply like lambs to the slaughter. On that fateful day, this was a story repeated again and again all over Mumbai: unarmed civilians, slow & inept emergency services, and mindless slaughter of innocents.

But we live in a democracy; hence at the end of the day it is each one of us who is to blame. It is we the people who must ask our representatives hard questions; it is we who must bring the right to bear arms to the forefront of the political agenda. We have the power to effect change through our votes and with elections just a few months away, let us not forget the lessons of Mumbai, let us not forget those that lost their lives there, many of who could have been saved if just a few of us were armed.

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GUNS: India has strict “gun control”? Guess that doesn’t work 100%!

Saturday, November 29, 2008

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Indian forces kill last gunmen in Mumbai Indian forces kill last gunmen in Mumbai

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MUMBAI, India (AP) – A 60-hour terror rampage that killed at least 195 people across India’s financial capital ended Saturday when commandos killed the last three gunmen inside a luxury hotel while it was engulfed in flames. Authorities searched for any remaining captives hiding in their rooms and…

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I don’t see any mention in the liberal biased mainstream press (but, as mark twain said, i repeat myself), abotu the draconian gun control laws in India.

Guess we can’t trust victims to defend themselves.

Wonder how this disaster might have turned out?

GOOFERMENT kills!

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GUNS: Menedez is anti-gun freedom. What a surprise!

Thursday, November 6, 2008

From: “Senator Robert Menendez” <Senator_Menendez@menendez.senate.gov>

Date: November 5, 2008 11:48:47 AM EST

To: Reinke

Subject: Re: From Senator Menendez’s Website

Dear Mr. Reinke:

Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding the National Capital Security and Safety Act (H.R. 6842). I appreciate the opportunity to hear your views on this important issue.

As you may know, the National Capital Security and Safety Act will make significant negative changes to the District of Columbia’s existing firearms law. For example, this legislation would repeal the District of Columbia’s current ban on semiautomatic assault weapons, as well as it’s prohibition on individuals carrying guns in public. It would eliminate the District of Columbia’s firearm registration system and do away with criminal background checks for secondhand gun purchases. In a nutshell, it will require the District to remove all restrictions on gun ownership that go beyond the minimum federal requirements and would prohibit the District from adopting gun regulations from other cities and states. I find this legislation to be unacceptable.

Like many issues that come before the United States Congress, the issue of gun control has two sides, each of which is strongly and passionately defended by its supporters. As your Senator, I firmly believe in the right of all citizens to use firearms responsibly to protect one’s home and family. I also support safe recreational use of guns, as long as participants act responsibly. I do not, however, support gun use by all people in all situations, and I am committed to keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and those that will use them to do harm. I believe the National Capital Security and Safety Act could have a considerable negative impact on safety and security in the nation’s capital. Therefore, I cannot support it. Although this bill passed through the House of Representatives with the support of the National Rifle Association by a vote of 266-152, I will continue to work to improve the bill on the Senate side so that a safe and reasonable gun control law can be enacted.

Again, thank you for contacting me regarding this important issue. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future about this or any other matter of concern. I invite you to visit my website (http://menendez.senate.gov) to learn of other important issues to New Jersey.

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What part of “shall not be infringed” does Senator Menedez NOT understand?

If the pen is mightier than the sword, then Menedez would seek “reasonable printer control”?

Argh!

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GUNS: An intended rape victim shot and killed her attacker

Thursday, November 6, 2008

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story/9C58494B45470714862574F3006D0CA6?OpenDocument

Cops: Cape Girardeau woman kills man who returned to rape her second time
By Heather Ratcliffe
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
10/31/2008

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An intended rape victim shot and killed her attacker this morning in Cape Girardeau when he broke into her home to rape her a second time, police said.

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Self-defense!

A great antidote to rape.

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GUNS: Obama is an anti-gun liberal

Wednesday, October 29, 2008

http://cli.gs/NPUQ91

American Thinker: Democrats Should Fear the ‘Brady Effect’.
October 29, 2008
By Brad O’Leary

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As a U.S. Senator, Obama voted to ban most rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting. As a State Senator, he voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of citizens and homeowners who use a gun in self-defense. Also as a State Senator, he endorsed raising the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition 500 percent. And Obama supports gun registration – which history has shown is the first step to gun confiscation.

If Obama’s legislative record on the Second Amendment isn’t clear enough, he infamously reminded voters in Pennsylvania earlier this year of his disdain for gun owners, calling them bitter xenophobes who use the Bill of Rights, which protects gun ownership, and religion as a crutch.

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When politicians are anti-gun, you have to ask what do they have in store for the citizenry that requires them to be disarmed. If the Shoah / Holocaust has taught us anything, it is that Genocide follows Disarmament. It was so in pre-WW2 Germany, China, Cambodia, and countless places at different times.

The Dead Old White Guys knew that the Government, any government, was dangerous. Hope when folks think about voting, they remember the “gun rights” issue.

“A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Seems simple enough to me? Take a minute and either view or download the video at http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/2a-today-download.htm (It’s free!)

Think for a moment about how you’ll feel when you, your family, and neighbors are herded by armed men into the railroad cars for the camps. Don’t say it can’t happen here. It did! Think back to the Japanese Internment. Think back to how Indians were treated. Mao said: “Power comes at the end of the barrel of a gun!” How many did he kill?

For me, the “gun issue” is a litmus test on politicians. It tells me whether I can trust them with the awesome power of the government.

I think once again, America is at a crossroads. The choices are obvious. Except to the sheeple who have been dumbed down by gooferment education.

“Cold dead hands”!

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GUNS: Obama Hates My Family Heirloom

Sunday, June 15, 2008

Obama Hates My Family Heirloom

Well spoken fellow demonstrates why ‘gun freedom’ is the blue ribbon litmus test of politicians. Victim disarmament first; genocide second!


GUNS: Malaysia write rants about crime

Sunday, October 7, 2007

FROM A JEFFERY YONG EMAIL

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Violent crimes are rising faster than the Share Market. Malaysians used to watch TV and comment about how bad the crime rate is in USA while quietly thankful that “our Malaysia” is relatively peaceful. No longer! In my neighborhood alone, there is a snatch theft case every single week! If you’re lucky, you lose your money. Or else, you may be slashed mercilessly. The only saving grace is that “gun crimes” are still not as rampant as in the US. But for how long?

I’m not going to go into an emotional account of how the whole nation was in uproar and how even the “imam” (Muslim priest) who conducted the funeral cried openly. I’m also not going to go into a seething rant on how the police and government should be DOING MORE to prevent such crimes. These, you can read in the various blogs all over the net just by searching for “Nurin Jazlin”

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Well, aside from the snide reference to gun crime, it would appear that people can’t defend themselves. John Lott has done numerous studies that show when the good folks are armed, crime plummets.

I’d opine that there are a few reasons for it: (1) Criminals are cowards for good reason. Messing with an armed citizen, or in the vicinity of one, can get you killed. (2) Someone who his armed has assumed the mantle of John Wayne “What are you doing, pilgrim?”. And, is more likely to become the “police” when a neighbor cries out for help. It’s down right dumb to interfere unarmed. (3) Women, the elderly, and children are no longer “weak” and can’t assert their own rights.

As regular readers here know, I like the “sprinkle a few sheepdogs in among the flock and let the wolves guess” strategy.

The police are little more than sanitation men. They come along long after the fact, put up some tape, take pics to memorialize the event, write reports, and then go for doughnuts. Only an armed citizen has a chance to defend themselves and their neighbors from crime.

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GUNS: Sure throw another gun law on the pile

Monday, September 10, 2007

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070910/D8RINT7O1.html

Cleveland Mayor: Ban Guns for Under 21
Sep 10, 1:26 PM (ET)

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CLEVELAND (AP) – Cleveland’s mayor called on the state Monday to create a new law that would prohibit anyone under age 21 from possessing a firearm.

Mayor Frank Jackson’s proposal followed the shooting death last week of a 12-year-old girl who was hit by a stray bullet as she walked to a corner store. He noted that police statistics from 2004 to 2006 show 70 percent of those arrested for crimes involving firearms were under 28.

Under Ohio law, no one under 18 is permitted to purchase a firearm. A person must be at least 21 to obtain a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

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And like a giant non sequiteur, how this helps the situation is unclear to me? Am I missing something?

End the pseudo drug war, and just like Prohibition, the collateral damage will end. We don’t see Bud and Miller shooting it out over who will sell their wares on what corner.

We have had a the “War on Drugs” for several decades now. It’s don a lot of good. We have more people in jail, more drug addiction, more shoot outs, and less treatment.

Let’s have the gooferment leave it to the marketplace to solve the problem. The gooferment should just walk away from the problem. Wonder what all the drug dealers will do when you can buy your drugs at the corner store for pennies. Best estimates that I have seen, say that MaryJane will be akin to tobacco. Other drugs will be akin to aspirin. That’s the way it was in the early 1900s. It would be a real laff to see the Columbian Drug cartel lined up against WalMart.

And, we won’t have young adults, who should know better, dead from drugs adulterated with poisons or of unknown strength.

Drug addiction is a medical problem.

Gun violence is due to the “drug prohibition” we have stupidly allowed the gooferment to enforce.

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GUNS: Yet Another NJ Gun Law

Saturday, May 12, 2007

Dear Assemblyman Bill, Assemblywoman Linda, and Senator Peter:

Please impress on your colleagues that this anti-gun bills are: (a) un Constitutional; (b) immoral; (c) ineffective; and (d) inefficient. And, vote that way.

Clearly, the Second Amendment precludes Government from regulating guns. Slice it and dice it any way you want the Dead Old White Guys were right on. When you take guns away from the People, or at least try to, that sets the stage for tyranny. Just remember Nazi Germany. Disarm the citizens; death camps in the 30’s and 40’s. Governments kill people in massive quantities. I can repeat all the bumper stickers, because they are all true. But let’s stick to the one most on point. When you outlaw, guns, only outlaws will have guns. Look to England with home invasions on the rise and they still have gun killings. Criminal don’t obey laws.

It is immoral to remove the People’s Right to Self-defense. I know you’d all love to live in a world where nothing bad ever happens. But, that’s not real life. The murders on the VT campus were a DIRECT result of creating a “gun free zone”. Guess it wasn’t do “gun free”? While we can’t ever know that there would have been an armed person there if that diktat was not in effect, we KNOW positively that there wasn’t even a possibility of one with it in effect. Even a young girl or an old teacher might have been able to stop the slaughter when the nut had to reload. But the politicians and bureaucrats ensured that the shooter would have no worries about armed resistance. John Lott’s studies show the power of guns in the hands of law abiding people. It’s immoral to deny the People the protection of “sprinkling a few sheepdogs among the sheep”. Recognize that good law abiding people will defend themselves, their families, their neighbors, and even complete strangers if give a fighting chance. Only the very bravest, or the foolish, will attempt to take on a shooter unarmed. But, given a weapon, how many of those VT dead an injured would have be able to defend themselves.

Gun Laws are ineffective. The NJ Legislature has passed how many gun laws. And, taxes on guns. And, restrictions. And, and, and. Still criminals shoot people. Do you think that all the laws in the world aren’t going to help? So for example, see any 50’s being used in crimes? Oh but let’s pass a law. What’s next, “if it saves one child”? You can’t legislate a solution. Go ahead and continue to try, but it’s futile. Good people will still be good; bad bad. When you pass a gun law, you shift the balance. Less good people with guns; more bad people with guns. When the law is exceptionally stupid, you might even turn “good people” into “criminals”. Stop the insanity. Every time you pass “gun laws”, you make the People less safe. Let’s take a Rutgers co-ed. Bright young girl. You have effectively made it impossible for her to defend herself. She get raped. Who’s fault? YOURS! You didn’t trust her to know when and how to defend herself. I do. Do I think that she will suddenly lose her mind and begin blowing people away. Not likely. Might some amorous young man get threatened. Could be. One thing is for sure that young girl will be in control. And, it’s a self-nominating thing. No one says she has to carry; she can choose to. With out you legislators playing God with her life. I trust women to know when they need to use deadly force. Don’t you? I trust all my fellow citizens to know when to use deadly force. Don’t you?

The gun laws are inefficient. The costs of ownership are artificially increased by legislation. Economics teaches us that when you raise the cost, the supply demand curve shifts. Raise the taxes and fees and you deprive the poor of the good. They can’t afford it. Now I know the political elite, the rich, and the celebrities all have all the armed security they need. I’m sure that the politicians and bureaucrats get all the gun permits that they could want. How about the poor minority woman who has to walk from the bus stop to her home at night? She doesn’t deserve to be able to protect herself. She doesn’t even show up on anyone’s radar. When you eliminate cheap guns or raise their cost, exactly whose hands are you taking them out of? Not the criminal’s. Not the elite’s. Yup, that poor person is at risk.

So in summary, I urge you to vote against ALL gun regulations everywhere anytime. The criminals won’t obey. And, the law abiding, who would, aren’t the problem.

Now, would you like to talk about the “drug war”? Would you believe it too is (a) un Constitutional; (b) immoral; (c) ineffective; and (d) inefficient.

If you have to make laws, make them limiting government. You guys don’t even fasten your own seat belts, but make us.

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New Jersey Update On Gun Ban Legislation!

On Thursday, May 10, the New Jersey Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee decided to take no action on Assembly Bill 3494, sponsored by Assemblywoman Pamela Lampitt (D-6) and Assemblyman Peter Barnes (D-18). A3494 would drastically raises all firearm license and permit fees and would allow the Superintendent of State Police the discretion to annually reconsider fees for a manufacturer or dealer license, a carry permit, the firearms purchase I.D. (FID), and the pistol purchase permits.The committee also voted 4 to 2 to amend Assembly Bill 3998, sponsored by Assemblymen Reed Gusciora (D-15), Michael Panter (D-12), and Robert Gordon (D-38), which would ban the possession of all .50 BMG rifles by declaring such items to be a destructive device.

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GUNS: Women should be armed. Not with a cell phone, but a nice “girlie” handgun!

Monday, March 26, 2007

http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2007/tle410-20070325-02.html

http://tinyurl.com/2fktnb

Scorched Earth
by L. Neil Smith
lneil@netzero.com

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What kind of twisted psychopath do you happen to be, Madame Mayor, Mr. Councilman, Commissioner, Legislator, Governor, Congressman, Senator, President, that you’d rather see a woman raped in an alley, and strangled with her own pantyhose, than see her with a gun in her hand?

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Guns are the litmus test issue.

Ask a politician where he stands on the “gun issue” and if you get anything but straight Second Amendment stuff, then you have discovered their politics. They want to impose their views on you. By force, if you don’t agree to submit to their will. The Second Amendment is there for only one reason and one reason only: To allow the citizens to forcibly remove a tyrannical government!

It’s not about hunting. It’s not about permits, licensing, and background checks for “criminals”. It’s about control. The first thing a dictator does is disarm the scapegoats. The Jews learned it in Nazi Germany. And, over time countless millions get killed by “gooferment”.

The professional soldiers talk about the Fourth Generation War we are facing Iraq. Unfortunately, there will be a Fifth Generation War here as well when the citizens rise up against those in power. The politicians like their easy life with the constant shearing of sheep. Heaven help them if there are a few sheep dogs in the flock that object to being sheered.

FMPOV, even if they succeed, they will eventually fail.

Look what a handful of Jews did in Warsaw with about six guns. When the sheep decide they have had enough, and are willing to die for freedom, then the politicians better get out of Dodge quick. Revolutions fail. I remember being in school when the Hungarians revolted against the Soviets. Ever heard of a “Molotov Cocktail”? Guess where it originated. On the streets of Hungary, where young children said “no” to Soviet Oppression. Hungary is free now. It’s inevitable.

Don’t let the sheep shearers put your fangs.

Women should be “packin”. Not a cell phone, Mace, or car keys. But a nice little “girlie” gun. They should AUTOMATICALLY by being in America have one. I’m sure that the gun makers can make them in coordinating colors just like cell phones.

To quote Heinlein, “An armed society is a polite society”. And, safe too.