GOLDBUG: The true price of gold and silver

Wednesday, June 19, 2013

http://usawatchdog.com/were-a-long-way-from-the-1970s/

We’re a Long Way from the 1970’s
12 JUNE 2013 
By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com (Updated)

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In the 1970’s, we had reporters investigating the White House. Today, we have the White House investigating reporters for doing their jobs. What Nixon did in the Watergate break-in is child’s play compared to the Obama Administration’s use of the IRS to target hundreds of groups considered political enemies. Let’s not forget the data collection on millions of Americans by the NSA and the brave souls that lost their lives in Benghazi. Revelations from multiple scandals seem to keep coming. This is, at the very least, a reflection of bad management of USA Inc. and not good for the U.S. dollar.

So, is the gold rush over? Not if you ask China, India, Russia and multiple hedge funds. Can precious metals prices still be suppressed and pushed lower? Yes, but only until the markets cannot or will not deliver physical metal. When that happens, there will be no more selling what you don’t have. It you want to sell 50,000 ounces of gold, you’ll have to produce it. The markets will be “cash only.” Then and only then will you get the true price of gold and silver.

We are a long way from the 1970′s. What is happening now has never happened in all of recorded history. No country has ever been more indebted than the U.S. Money printing has never been a coordinated global event. The risk to a black swan event such as nuclear war has never been greater in human history. So, when will the gold rush be over? The short answer: when there’s world peace and there is trust and integrity in the financial system.

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It’s interesting when you thing of the giant Ponzi scheme that the dollar represents.

Once upon a time, a “dollar” was:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar

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The U.S. dollar was created by the Constitution and defined by the Coinage Act of 1792. It specified a “dollar” to be based in the Spanish milled dollar and of 371 grains and 4 sixteenths part of a grain of pure or 416 grains (27.0 g) of standard silver and an “eagle” to be 247 and 4 eighths of a grain or 270 grains (17 g) of gold (again depending on purity).[36] The choice of the value 371 grains arose from Alexander Hamilton’s decision to base the new American unit on the average weight of a selection of worn Spanish dollars. Hamilton got the treasury to weigh a sample of Spanish dollars and the average weight came out to be 371 grains. A new Spanish dollar was usually about 377 grains in weight, and so the new U.S. dollar was at a slight discount in relation to the Spanish dollar.

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What is it worth now?

Argh!

Is the answer “not much”?

And shrinking every minute.

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GOLDBUG: Waiting lists for coins and bars?

Tuesday, May 7, 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/10028183/Gold-buyers-forced-to-go-on-waiting-list.html

HOME»FINANCE»PERSONAL FINANCE»INVESTING»GOLD
Gold buyers forced to go on waiting list
Gold buyers are having to wait up to six weeks for their bars and coins after a price dip led to increased interest.

By Rosie Murray-West3:55PM BST 30 Apr 201358

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Investment company Physical Gold said there were waiting lists of three weeks for some coins, and four to six weeks for gold bars. “Previously all would have been available within a few days,” the company said.
The company said that it had seen a 50pc increase in enquiries about purchasing gold and a 35pc increase in sales, with people buying tax-free gold coins. “We are now starting to experience physical gold shortages,” said Daniel Fisher, CEO of Physical Gold.

“In particular there are waiting times on some gold bars and a real difficulty in obtaining mixed year Sovereigns. “However, many clients are willing to ‘do a deal’ and wait for delivery as they want to secure the current price as they feel it will be higher in the near future.”

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Yeah, the price drops on “paper” gold, but premiums (seniorage) on “hard” gold goes up.

Now who doesn’t think the Sheeple and Clovers aren’t being manipulated?

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QUOTE: Not enough to cover the giant web of obligations

Thursday, March 28, 2013

“What remains are games of musical chairs, Ponzi schemes, frauds, swindles, stonewalls, ruses, ploys, scams, dodges, bluffs, subterfuges, QE martingales, interventions, rehypothecations, pretenses and other modes of evading or disguising reality. The reality is that there is not enough real wealth to go around, certainly not enough to cover the giant web of obligations that masquerades as ‘money.’” – James Howard Kunstler in an essay titled The Cyprus Fiasco Is A Metaphor For The Entire Global Financial System

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POLITICAL: “… steal the passenger lifeboats …”

Sunday, November 4, 2012

http://lewrockwell.com/holland/holland72.1.html

Gold, Switzerland and the European Secessionist Movement
Anthony Wile interviews Ron Holland
The Daily Bell

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Ron Holland: Cutting rates, monetary stimulation and creating more fiat money seems to be the only option left to the central banking cartel in Europe and America. For the US, this creates a higher stock market thus making citizens feel more prosperous and less destitute than they really are. This always occurs during a presidential election campaign as the party in power and the president up for re-election need a positive – or in this case an improving – economy to increase their chances of winning the election. Both parties have done this for the last 40 years or so; nothing unusual here.

I really don’t view monetary easing as particularly harmful as it only postpones the inevitable for a little while longer, like moving up the angle of the Titanic as it was sinking from the bow with the stern higher up in the air. You stay dry for a few minutes longer but in the end, you still drown. Today politicians and central bankers are sort of like some crews on recent sinking cruise ships. They are using their time to steal the passenger lifeboats and safely get away while leaving the passengers to swim to shore or drown.

Also, the European Central Bank (ECB) and banking elite efforts to postpone their day of reckoning in Europe and New York is actually somewhat helpful to American citizens and investors. The investor risk in Europe is actually propelling funds into the American stock and bond markets as well as the dollar buying us a little extra time before the crisis crosses the Atlantic. In addition, the EU problems are helping the dollar in the near term on a relative basis to be stronger than it would be otherwise.

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This is an insightful metaphor (i.e., the Titanic’s lifeboats).

It’s interesting and dangerous times.

How does the individual protect themselves and their families?

Clearly, one has to diversify one’s risks.

Make “insurance bets”.

If inflation picks up (more than it is now; if you believe the Gooferment’s numbers), then you have to take precautions.

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GOVERNACIDE: Poor growth tied to fiat money; it’s a “killer”

Friday, October 26, 2012

Markets Alert
from The Wall Street Journal

U.S. economic growth picked up in the third quarter as consumers spent more, federal government spending accelerated and the housing industry improved in the months leading up to November’s presidential election.

The nation’s gross domestic product–the broadest measure of goods and services produced by the economy–grew at an annual rate of 2% between July and September, the Commerce Department said Friday.

http://online.wsj.com/home-page?mod=djemalertMARKET

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A national disgrace.

IF you believe the Gooferment’s numbers!

Doesn’t “feel” like 2% to me. Just like “unemployment” doesn’t feel like 8%. And, inflation, don’t make me laff, ain’t ZERO! (Gasoline four years ago was UNDER $2 / per gallon and yday I paid 3¾$ per gallon! That’s 80% over four years or 20% per year. Consider that gas costs gets built into EVERY product and service created!)

Sorry, but we a “KILLING” people.

I trace it back to the “funny money”. It allows the politicians and bureaucrats to fool us. And, the standard that money should represent. 

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MONEY: What is the value of a fiat currency?

Wednesday, August 15, 2012

http://www.silverdoctors.com/cnbc-are-fiat-currencies-headed-for-a-collapse/

Are Fiat Currencies Headed for a Collapse?
Published: Friday, 27 Jul 2012 | 5:27 AM ET
By: Lisa Oake
Anchor, CNBC Asia-Pacific

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Shockingly, CNBC even points out in the article that “Every single fiat currency in history has collapsed, this time will be no different.”

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A fiat currency derives its worth from the issuing government – it is not fixed in value to any objective standard. That means central banks can print as much money as they want. If an economy is struggling, injecting more notes into the system juices activity but lowers the value of the currency in question.

Mark Mobius, Executive Chairman of Templeton Emerging Markets Group, says investors will soon start to demand fiat currencies be backed by gold or other hard assets.

“It’s already happening, you’re beginning to see that trend with central banks stocking up on gold. The estimate is that at least half of the buying is central bank buying. They are looking to the day when they can say okay, our currency is backed by gold and therefore we’re a strong country,” Mobius told CNBC Asia.

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Argh!

All one has to do is study a little history and you have to be afraid.

Weimar Republic, Zimbabwe, Iraq — come immediately to mind.

We’ve been the guinea pigs in a hundred year experiment in a fiat currency. Now the free ride is coming to an end.

The fun question is how does it unwind?

With a thud!

Does the Carter-style inflation return? Or does it just start to accellerate, continue, and never stops until the value is zero?

When the wild ride starts, it’s too late to covert to hard assets.

Argh!

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GOLD: Unfunded liabilities

Monday, January 9, 2012

http://lewrockwell.com/spl3/gold-chart-walk-2012.html

Gold Chart Walk 2012
by Morris Hubbartt

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Unlimited government requires unlimited funding. The unfunded liabilities of the USA are staggering. Over the next 20-25 years there is probably a gigantic $75 trillion unfunded liability problem for the US government. Think of the move in gold against the dollar with a debt of $15 trillion. Can you imagine the action in gold with a debt five times the current size?

The United States could be headed towards decades of dollar devaluation. With all of the problems in Europe, why isn’t the euro hitting new lows? Why can’t the dollar mount a real rally, instead of this tiny bit of strength?

The answer is that the dollar isn’t really very strong at all. If America goes into a crisis like you’ve just seen in Europe, the fall in the dollar could dwarf the euro’s fall, because America is the largest debtor nation in the history of the world.

The nature of all fiat currencies is to be competitive, with each currency group looking for an advantage in trade, and more importantly, an advantage in debt relief for the governments that issue these currencies. Fiat currencies are designed to be depreciated over time. Buy Gold in this time of gold price weakness, because your opportunity won’t last forever.

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Regardless of how you feel about gold — the magic mineral, an obsolete anachronism, or something in between — this quote should strike fear into the heart on anyone who understands “real life”.

As if “unlimited government” was NOT scary enough, “unlimited funding” should be down right terrifying.

The national debt stands at 15T$ and growing every second.

Then you hit the guesstimate of 75T$ of unfunded liability, which should knock your socks off. It does mine.

How did “we” get in this mess? Even a crooked accountant, with two sets of books, has one that tells him the truth. Even Bernie Made-off knew he was “underwater”. We don’t even have ONE set that tells us the truth.

“Jobs created or saved”, “unemployment” stats that don’t account for the “99 week”-ers, and an inflation rate that doesn’t include food or fuel.

These are the statisticians that you’re looking to tell you “the truth”.

Can you even handle “the truth”?

“The truth” is that we’re going to be like Japan, the Soviet Union, and Zimbabwe all rolled into one.

As one of those war movies said: “Tell everyone to get small in their holes because trouble is coming.”

Argh!

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