TAGONIST: Cop Tasers 14-Year-Old Female

Monday, December 26, 2011


Crime Surveillance Video Captures Cop Tasering 14-Year-Old Female Student
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:17pm by Jonathon M. Seidl Jonathon M. Seidi

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Newly-released video showing an Allentown, PA police officer tasering a 14-year-old female student in September is causing debate over whether the officer used excessive force. The video was released as part of a lawsuit filed by the girls family.

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For not crossing the street fast enough? That’s how this all started.

ANT: The police are out of control. The hubris of power over mere mundanes. The “Mundane” girls should have immediately followed the instructions of her “betters”. How dare she object to his obviously reasonable requests? Sorry, where did she ever agree to be subject to the whims of the costumed thug? Argh! It’s typical. And this is the tip of the iceberg of what we hear about.

PRO: We are raising a society where there is no respect for authority…it starts in the homes and continues throughout schools and workplaces. We could have a calm, orderly society with zero instances like this if people behaved. You can have your freedoms, we aren’t talking about robots here….just some reasonable tolerance with authority. We are a law abiding society, without it chaos reigns (example is the OWSers).

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TAGONIST: Police beating of Las Vegas man caught on tape

Monday, April 25, 2011


Police beating of Las Vegas man caught on tape
Posted: Apr. 22, 2011 | 1:43 p.m.

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When Mitchell Crooks checked out of the county jail last month and checked into a Las Vegas hospital, the 36-year-old videographer knew he had a fight on his hands.

His face was bloodied and bruised. His $3,500 camera had been impounded by police, and he faced criminal charges for battery on a police officer.

One month later, things have changed for Crooks.

The Clark County district attorney’s office has dropped all charges, and Crooks has retained an attorney of his own. The Metropolitan Police Department has opened an internal investigation into the Las Vegas police officer, Derek Colling, who Crooks says falsely arrested and beat him for filming police.

And his camera — which captured the entire March 20 altercation between Crooks and Colling — has been returned.

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“Officer Colling was aggravated that a citizen should have the audacity to video tape, him — a Las Vegas Metropolitan Patrol Officer,” Otto wrote. “Officer Colling decided to use the fear and terror of his physical ability to beat Mr. Crooks into submission — to teach Mr. Crooks and, by example, all citizens and residents of the Las Vegas Valley.”

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ANT-TAGONIST: The police, as well as any Gooferment “official”, must expect to be “supervised” by anyone. Citizen, Resident, Illegal Alien, or just PIA with a video. Politicians and bureaucrats view video the way Dracula saw Holy Water. BTW don’t the cops have dash cams in their cars to film the mundanes? Sorry, but there are bad cops. In some confused sense, when we allow this phantom illusion called the Gooferment some sort of right to use force, we set up failure. Who goes into “law enforcement”, those that want to use force on others. In a great example of the Peter Principle, the police hierarchy selects the dim witted. (OK what would you call a policy where you weed out all the smart applicants?) And, that hierarchy sets up Rule Of Engagement that allows the cops to get away with murder. Unless the killing is of one of the elite. Yes, we need some sort of security. But it should be based of the Zero Aggression Principle. No one is ever allowed to initiate force on another human being. Peace officers, yes. Police, no. And, along the way, maybe we can change the Gooferment’s “justice” system from “rehabilitation” to “restitution”. Rehabilitation is just code for recidivism. To quote Reagan, who got a few things correct, “Gooferment is the problem” and police behavior is just another symptom.

PRO-TAGONIST: The transcript indicates he told the police officer that he didn’t live there…and he said he even regrets lying to him. Lying is never good. The officer likely suspected foul play.

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TAGONIST: Wrong door raid in the Hudson Valley

Friday, January 28, 2011

The DEA has apologized for the wrong door raid in the Hudson Valley. John P. Gilbride, special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration, issued a statement Friday clearing Spring Valley resident David McKay and his family of anything to do with the series of drug raids that took place early Thursday in Westchester and Rockland counties. “We sincerely regret that while attempting to execute an arrest warrant for a member of this drug trafficking organization, the innocent McKay family was inadvertently affected by this enforcement operation,” Gilbride said. “Though we take many precautions to prevent this type of incident from happening, drug investigations are very complex and involve many fluid factors,” Gilbride said. “DEA will continue to pursue these criminal organizations to protect the public from the scourge of drug trafficking.”

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PRO-TAGONIST: I’m just glad they were working to stop drug traffickers. Collateral damage is often a byproduct of good yet dangerous work. It’s not like math, 2+2=4, it has many variables, is very risky and uncertainty. But in the end, the more criminals we can stop…some collateral damage along the way is acceptable, to me anyway. It’a like a drone that takes out Al-Qaida terrorists planning an attack. Sometimes there is collateral damage there too, but when compared to the potential loss of lives the terrorists could have done, it is a win. No loss of life or liberty is a good thing…but it’s a mean world out there.

AN-TAGONIST: Little hard if you’re the “collateral damage”! Argh, makes me sick. The family in the Hudson Valley had Fourth Amendment rights to be secure in the home. Sorry, but I’d PUBLICLY discipline folks. If I was the Head of the DEA, I’d put at least a Letter of Reprimand in every single file of ANYONE involved in the raid. Including my own! I’d probably reassign the “Special Agent In Charge” to where ever the North Pole office was located. Nothing will send a message to bureaucrats as a threat to their beloved livelihood of “lifetime employment”. I’d put every other SAIC that a repeat blunder will result in termination. That’s what happens in the real world. One strike and you’re out! Argh! Legalize drugs; we’re all the “collateral damage” in the “(pseudo) War on (some) Drugs”.]

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TAGONIST: Suspect dies by tasar; police refuse to cooperate

Saturday, January 8, 2011


Officers refuse to answer questions in death of man shot with Taser
By Joe Schoenmann (contact)
Friday, Dec. 31, 2010 | 2 a.m.

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In the first test of the county’s new rules for reviewing police-involved deaths, officers connected with the Dec. 11 death of a suspect who was shot with a Taser are refusing to cooperate with investigators.

Their refusal to make voluntary statements to Metro’s Force Investigation Team is on the advice of the Las Vegas Police Protective Association, said Chris Collins, president of the officers union. From Collins’ standpoint, not only is the officers’ refusal to cooperate the right thing to do, it marks the beginning of the end of the coroner’s inquest system.

The system, in use for 40 years, has come under fire in the wake of controversial shootings involving Metro officers, prompting Clark County commissioners to undertake a revision of the ordinance that lays the ground rules for the courtlike hearings.

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[ANTAGONIST: It’s the Brett Farve defense. If I don’t cooperate, you can’t do squat. Try that in a private enterprise! It’d be “pick up your last check and forget any severance”. Why do the police think that they are immune to any consequences? I guess, like “star” athletes, who get away with everything forever, they get a mindset of ‘entitlement’. In short, the people should fear the cops. They are out of control. By any standard!]

[PROTAGONIST: The officers did cooperate, they gave complete statements which then can be used in any future inquest. Note from the article below.... QUOTE Collins said he wants officers to avoid being questioned four times about the same incident — during the criminal investigation, at the inquest, and then, if there is a civil suit, a deposition, and at a trial. To paint a picture of the problems that might arise, Collins gave a fictional example: After shooting a suspect, an officer tells homicide investigators he was 6 feet away when he shot; during the inquest, the ombudsman grills him and gets him to say it was “6 or 7 feet”; then a civil suit is filed and the officer has to go into a deposition and answer again; then he answers one more time during the civil trial. UNQUOTE This is exactly the tactic that defense attorneys use. They claim, "See, he wrote 6 feet in his statement, but now he says 6 or 7 feet. Gee, which was it? See, this guy doesn't know what he saw!" That stuff kills me....just trial trickery They gave their statements, let them stand by them...at the appropriate time, not because some media trenzy wants to prosecute them before any inquest begins. ]

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TAGONIST: Eugene man sues cops, says criminal charge an attempt to cover up wrongful arrest

Sunday, November 21, 2010

TAGONIST: Eugene may crosses the “boys in blue”


“You have no choice, you gotta charge the guy,” Crompton told the other officers. “Otherwise we are screwed.” Police took Kemp to jail on a misdemeanor charge of interfering with a police officer. They also ticketed him for being a pedestrian improperly on the highway.

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ANTAGONIST says:  How inconvenient that the dash cam caught the blue costumed thugs discussing how they were goign to infringe on this poor mundane’s rights. After all he should have been driving home from work like the rest of the “We, The Sheeple”. Good thing I’m not the judge or on the jury. I’d fire all three of the costumed thugs and subject them to the same penalties that they attempted to inflict on him like interfering and improperly pedestrianing. Then I throw in a multiplier for malfeasance in a public office, waste of everyone’s resources, and a little extra to deter future bad behavior by their “brother costumed thugs”.

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PROTAGONIST says:  Lol…not sure I have an alternate view….I wouldn’t be as harsh as you suggest, but the cops definitely were in the wrong here.

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What’s your opinion?

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TAGONIST: 2010-09-22 FL Police “hip check” an old vet into a broken neck

Thursday, September 23, 2010


84-year-old vet suffers broken neck after police takedown
By Dave D’Marko, Reporter
Last Updated: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:50 PM

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ORLANDO — An elderly man is in critical condition after being thrown to the ground by a police officer.

It happened Saturday night near North Orange Avenue after police say Daniel Daley put his hands on the cop.

The World War II veteran is out of surgery. He suffered an injury doctors at Florida Hospital say only about 10 percent of people are lucky enough to survive.

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Witnesses say he put his hands on the officer three times and the cop warned him to stop each time.

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Another witness says the officer then violently hip checked him and took him to the ground.

Daley ended up in Florida Hospital with a broken neck.

There’s nothing that deals with the elderly in the Orlando Police Department’s use of force policy. However, it does define imminent danger as a situation that could lead to death or great bodily harm.

An Orlando police sergeant and spokesperson said this situation should qualify as imminent danger, but many residents don’t think so.

“I don’t think anyone needs to be thrown to the ground and have their neck broken because they were parked in the wrong spot,” said Gabby Aparacio, store customer. “I mean he’s an old man. It doesn’t matter if you’ve been drinking or not. How belligerent can you be?”

“I know when I get angry, I ball my fist. It doesn’t mean I’m going to hit you. I think he had no right to do so,” said Nataya Benway.

As part of standard procedure, internal investigators will look at whether the officer complied with the department’s use of force policy.

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[ANTAGONIST: Well, we can't have an old man, a vet beside, actually touching a cop. Seriously, are these guys so inept or so untrained that two of them can't "handle" one old man without "breaking" him? And, what did they say to get him to that state. What are thy gonna do when they run up a real threat. And, they don't even get a paid vacation. Just a "we'll look at our policy". Here's a guy, who put himself in harm's way for the country; couldn't he, and all "criminals" be treated better. Bad Kop!]

[PROTAGONIST: Here is the key line.... 'Witnesses say he put his hands on the officer three times and the cop warned him to stop each time.']

You decide: Good Cop or Bad Kop?

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TAGONIST: 2010-09-09 MN Police fatally taser a man at the YMCA

Monday, September 20, 2010

Authority has always attracted the lowest elements in the human race. All through history mankind has been bullied by scum. Those who lord it over their fellows and toss commands in every direction and would boss the grass in the meadow about which way to bend in the wind are the most depraved kind of prostitutes.   – P.J. O’Rourke, “A Parliament of Whores”

We’ll start a new meme in “Reinke Faces Life” — dueling opposites about “police conduct”. As the “antagonist”, I argue that the police have gotten out of control and overpaid bureaucrats. My old friend sees them as “our friends” who are aggrieved and misunderstood.

We’re going to try to demonstrate the fine art of “disagreeing agreeably”. Something you never see on the inet. Or even on TV or radio.

Here’s item #1 for your reading pleasure or disgust.

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TAGONIST: 2010-09-09 MN Police fatally taser a man at the YMCA


Police Taser Man at YMCA in Minneapolis
Updated: Friday, 10 Sep 2010, 10:10 AM CDT
Published : Thursday, 09 Sep 2010, 8:23 PM CDT

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MINNEAPOLIS – A man was hospitalized Thursday after police used a Taser to remove him from the sixth-floor gym at the Minneapolis YMCA.

Minneapolis police received a 911 call from the YMCA Thursday afternoon about a man who was disturbing members. When police tried to talk to the man, witnesses said he became agitated and started punching and kicking, injuring one of the officers.

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Created: 09/18/2010 12:16 PM
Man Who Was Stunned By Mpls. Police Dies

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A 28-year-old man who was stunned by police following a struggle at a YMCA in Minneapolis has died.

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Police responded to the YMCA about a man who was disturbing members. Officers say they tried to physically remove the man from the sixth-floor gym, but he punched and kicked them. One officers used a Taser gun.

The two officers involved had been put on standard paid administrative leave. Both officers are back to work and the investigation continues.

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[ANTAGONIST: So now we have the “death penalty” for “disturbing members”? Sorry, but the police have become dangerous to the citizenry. And, Tasers are proving to be not the safe alternative to a firearm it was advertised to be. I can’t say that the men did something wrong; I can say I don’t like the outcome. That outcome has become way to often to be just random. The Drug War has militarized the police and changed their attitudes. And, those of the people.]

[PROTAGONIST: The guy punched and kicked them. Good cops.]

You decide: Good Cop or Bad Kop?

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