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	<title>Comments on: INTERESTING: &#8220;THE PUB&#8221; in 22102 allows smoking</title>
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		<title>By: michaeljmcfadden</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;(Not a problem considering I gave up beer and facebook for lent.)&quot;

Did you hear what the POPE decided to give up?

 :&gt;
MJM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(Not a problem considering I gave up beer and facebook for lent.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you hear what the POPE decided to give up?</p>
<p> :&gt;<br />
MJM</p>
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		<title>By: michaeljmcfadden</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, as little L libertarian, I&#039;ll trust you not to rat on them, but they&#039;re probably just one of hundreds of places that quietly ignore or skirt the ban.  Five years after the California bar ban an Antismoker did an undercover study and was dismayed to find that, right in the heart of extremist Kookiefornia, roughly half the bars he inspected were allowing smoking in various ways at the times he went to watch them.   Restaurants on their own can survive prohibitions on tobacco or alcohol, but bars are a different story: they lose about 20% of their business and you end up then with about 20% closing and the remainder seeming to do OK. 

In a more reasonable world, without The Men With The Guns in the background, you could probably talk in a relaxed and friendly way with the manager at the place and convince him to stick another window fan someplace pulling the smokey air out.  In the world as it is he&#039;ll probably just get all stressed out and hostile as soon as you bring the subject up because he&#039;ll be afraid you&#039;ll snitch on him to the cops and he&#039;ll wind up losing the bar biz that&#039;s keeping him afloat.  See either p. 15 of &quot;The Lies Behind The Smoking Bans&quot; at http://TinyURL.com/SmokingBanLies  or the full list Samantha, Dave, and I put together at: http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm while bearing in mind that while I&#039;m calling it &quot;full&quot; it&#039;s really only a very small gathering put together by three people over the course of a month or so of looking around.

Michael J. McFadden
Peace Studies &#039;73]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as little L libertarian, I&#8217;ll trust you not to rat on them, but they&#8217;re probably just one of hundreds of places that quietly ignore or skirt the ban.  Five years after the California bar ban an Antismoker did an undercover study and was dismayed to find that, right in the heart of extremist Kookiefornia, roughly half the bars he inspected were allowing smoking in various ways at the times he went to watch them.   Restaurants on their own can survive prohibitions on tobacco or alcohol, but bars are a different story: they lose about 20% of their business and you end up then with about 20% closing and the remainder seeming to do OK. </p>
<p>In a more reasonable world, without The Men With The Guns in the background, you could probably talk in a relaxed and friendly way with the manager at the place and convince him to stick another window fan someplace pulling the smokey air out.  In the world as it is he&#8217;ll probably just get all stressed out and hostile as soon as you bring the subject up because he&#8217;ll be afraid you&#8217;ll snitch on him to the cops and he&#8217;ll wind up losing the bar biz that&#8217;s keeping him afloat.  See either p. 15 of &#8220;The Lies Behind The Smoking Bans&#8221; at <a href="http://TinyURL.com/SmokingBanLies" rel="nofollow">http://TinyURL.com/SmokingBanLies</a>  or the full list Samantha, Dave, and I put together at: <a href="http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.smokersclub.com/banloss3.htm</a> while bearing in mind that while I&#8217;m calling it &#8220;full&#8221; it&#8217;s really only a very small gathering put together by three people over the course of a month or so of looking around.</p>
<p>Michael J. McFadden<br />
Peace Studies &#8217;73</p>
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